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Should [SpA] open a fun map server?
Poll ended at 02 Aug 2010, 11:23
heck yeah! 74%  74%  [ 14 ]
Nope.avi 26%  26%  [ 5 ]
Total votes: 19
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dk 
 Post subject: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 11:23 
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So ive been thinking about this "fun map server" for some time - i know they are pulling alot of traffic and we all know that more traffic = more users = more fun! :5:
I am not talking about some stupid plugin wich drops mushrooms when you die etc - purely maps all customs
like this http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=14452

So please take time to vote yay or nay and feel free to post links to maps wich you think are fun and originals.

Maps (updating as more comes - trying to get a hold of the old maps wich used to be on the custom server)
lolcano http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=13099
pl_minepit http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=14452
cp_hotelhell http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/130583
koth_persia http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/127793
cyperpunk(?)http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/50116
ctf_convoy http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/45247
rat maps(?) http://www.fpsbanana.com/mapcats/4312
ctf_Outset Islandhttp://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=53250
tc_meridan http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/112857
plr_whalerace http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=11224


Last edited by Phenomenon on 30 Jul 2010, 14:40, edited 4 times in total.

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de 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 11:30 
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Sounds great long as they're good, playable custom maps. Stuff like the Lolcano map, not any boring "surf" or "orange" maps...


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se 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 11:47 
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I want a real rats map for TF2 (not "toyfort" or other crap). That'd be awesome.

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gb 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 12:05 
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Some of the rocket jump and sticky jump maps are pretty fun, id look on fps bannana for some but im scared it might still have viruses. :(


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gb 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 12:41 
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minecraft map looks great, as does a proper rats map. but there's a couple of things; mainly that we do need really good and unique maps that people are gonna want to play. but there's also the consideration that other servers that don't just do the standard maps rotation or have any other 'gimmicks' tend to be active for a little while, then people get bored and disappear (exception being the bball servers). so while it would be cool to have such a thing, it needs to have some quality maps if the interest is going to be kept for long enough to make it worth our while.

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nl 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 13:07 
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I'm ok with a custom map server (again) but i really can't be arsed maintaining it. So if anyone is up to do the (proper!!) job, then let me know and we'll sort some access. I do expect full commitment so if you're gonna do it, then do it, and don't step back after 2 weeks cause your no longer interested.


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gb 
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PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 13:40 
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Probably all the people who would be willing to wouldnt know how to.


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gb 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 14:05 
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We used to have a server like that, and I loved it.

But nobody played on it, and it went away.

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pl 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 14:06 
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Custom maps servers doesn't work in this game. 99% people would rather play dustbowl and goldrush all over again instead of spending 5 minutes downloading map.


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dk 
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PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 14:21 
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Bartg wrote:
Custom maps servers doesn't work in this game. 99% people would rather play dustbowl and goldrush all over again instead of spending 5 minutes downloading map.
Mappacks will be provided.


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pl 
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PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 14:39 
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That wont solve the problem, trust me ;)


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ro 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 16:28 
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Phenomenon wrote:
Bartg wrote:
Custom maps servers doesn't work in this game. 99% people would rather play dustbowl and goldrush all over again instead of spending 5 minutes downloading map.
Mappacks will be provided.
I used to co-run a SpA custom map server with Spikespiegel. We only put the best of the best maps on it, had a complicated player-number sensitive map-cycle that would revert to normal maps if there were too few players and I made map packs with friggin' custom installers detecting TF2 install dirs and whatnot for minimum user-side effort.

Basically the moment we got bored of idling for like 2 hours straight until someone joined (and it wasn't the "passive" kind of idling either) the server died... All the SpA points I've earned were practically from trying to fill the Custom Map Server.

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ro 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 17:33 
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Why not pick a fun map like this and play it on the main server each week. I mean let's put a fun map into the normal rotation for 1 week, something like 5 normal maps then 1 fun map each day during one week. After the first week, replace the fun map with another fun map.


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ro 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 18:18 
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I think our stance on fun maps is that we don't want them on the main server since they would require some extensive testing first and of all custom maps funmaps are the ones most prone to being UTTERLY shit.

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gb 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 20:51 
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Aye, it's ultimately a double edged sword.

A custom map server will fail, and even putting custom maps on the main servers will fail...

It's like a previous poster said, the majority of players just want to play through the same old maps over and over. Even official maps have a tendency to drive away a lot of players. I can appreciate what you're trying to do Phenomenon, but I think it might be a bit of a lost cause mate.


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dk 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 22:28 
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yeah - alot of mixed thoughts about it...idk i just want something else than dustbowl dustbowl dustbowl :D


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gb 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2010, 23:50 
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Anyone know if that tower defence map was released? I really wanted to try that




EDIT: Found a test map dl in their steam group

http://www.mediafire.com/?njmkimyitxg


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de 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2010, 03:49 
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Didnt work last time, doubt it'll work this time.


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gb 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2010, 14:54 
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remove dustbowl and goldrush from the spa points menu, so certain people can't buy them all the time

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dk 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2010, 17:53 
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[SpA]Repel wrote:
Anyone know if that tower defence map was released? I really wanted to try that


YouTube video

EDIT: Found a test map dl in their steam group

http://www.mediafire.com/?njmkimyitxg
Yeah, 4 players max -.-
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s ... ?t=1386264


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ro 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2010, 19:17 
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
remove dustbowl and goldrush from the spa points menu, so certain people can't buy them all the time
This!


Althought while I still have spapoints and quick hand I can delay those until I have enough play and can go to sleep in peace :)

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nl 
 Post subject: Re: Server suggestion
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2010, 19:48 
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It works if you have dedicated players who fill the server , time after time. Ppl with the right motivation. I don't see that happen tbh. We've seen this kind of projects being tried a lot, they've all failed. All on the point that ppl are not motivated enough to fill the server, time after time. Gl if you are gonna try it, but if you're not fully convinced you're gonna try and fill that server every single time and keep it up to date with a fast response in fixing it, don't bother at all. Otherwise, gl.
To launch custom maps on the normal server from time to time wouldn't be a bad idea. Just get your propper custom maps tested on night and get some added to the server.
Next to that, there have been some maps added to the spa points buy map menu. There are a lot more maps in there then only dustbowl. Just buy yourself a map once in a while.

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