I know that you guys are thrilled that we can make TnT now, but its already being abused. I've had two builds damaged in some way by two different supops. You guys need to be careful with that TnT. If I see damage to any build caused by TnT, I'm considering it grief, intentional or not. You have been warned.

If you place TnT accidentally, call any red named player to magic stick it out.

_________________
It was used to emphasize the point, and is generally accepted by the grammar nazi community.

Remember what happened to battlekid? Yeah...that's gunna happen...

_________________
Breasts

i think it will die down after the temp. map, honestly. its still a problem right now dont get me wrong but i wouldnt worry TOO much

_________________
Not in cruelty. Not in wrath. The Reaper came today; an Angel visited this gray path, and took the cube away.

...

Let that be a warning to all....

_________________
C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.

I think, unless you're witnessing it, that a lot the damage is from creepers. It seems somehow when the mobs are jumping and scrambling around, they damage each other, and this somehow sets off the creepers. Maybe its a bug, creepers use to explode when they die, back when they were first developed. That's my theory anyway.

Nope, creepers dont explode when killed.
They explode when they are close to you, and you dont kill them in time.

_________________
Building worlds, destroying griefers, having fun. Not specialy in that order.

what happened to battlekid?

I think we should make temp maps more often, and not just when Notch updates. It's fun, as it's the true essence of survival, starting of with more or less nothing. One reason is because we might still not have mobs for some time and when we do we wont be having creepers, but on temp maps we can

I don't see the harm in keeping things fresh, I had a good laugh blowing up cows, making a temp house, and just generaly messsing about, with out upsetting anyone of course.
Well yes that's what I thought too, until I seen what creepers did to my house, because of some zombies jumping around them. Someone said that zombies were somehow damaging other mobs, which seems to be the case as they were flashing red from the damage, the mobs were eventually killing eachother if they were in a crowd, and when the creepers died, they went BOOM!

yeah!!!! like a "Temporary map Tuesday!"

_________________
Not in cruelty. Not in wrath. The Reaper came today; an Angel visited this gray path, and took the cube away.

"Temporary Nether Tuesday" then. Fun with acronyms =).

_________________
"Um ... I'm just wondering if it's okay if I hold you down against your will for a little bit?"

I don't like the idea of temporary maps because I might be working on something, and then the map randomly switches to another one, so I am unable to work on my project, and it doesn't really matter if you die on the Temp map anyway because you dont lose anything.....

_________________
[22:07] <@FBB2> +Ollieboy: %d+Pandorum%f: So Ollie when shall we have sex again?
[22:07] <@Xesdra_> fail
[22:07] <@FBB2> +Ollieboy: Noo the say failed me
[22:08] <@FBB1> +Pandorum: LOL

Yeah either have it every Tuesday, or fortnightly, have some temps in the nether and some on the regular map, it'd be fun

There's no other we'd be able to dance with the creepers. I mean I wouldnt go around blowing up cows, on the propper map, it would ruin it. Niether would I make shitty little houses and stuff, the temp map was great, everyone had to scramble for materials and shelter, it was like propper survival.

...I really don't see the point of temporary map Tuesday...but whatever...

Also with the plugins we have it is highly possible (and highly likely that this will happen) that creepers will be unable to damage the world (but still mess you up). This will be discussed further when we get the health based plugins and stuff showing us what we actually can do, but the general player base likes this idea so far.

_________________
Breasts

Yeah I don't see the point of a random map every thursday either... :/

_________________
<+Thaw111> although im shit at speeling
<+Thaw111> type
<+Thaw111> gtypo
<+Thaw111> typo
<+Thaw111> shit

In answer to that, when the halloween update F***** up the server, we had a temp map with /item for all.... I acted like a dick with TNT, and obviously got perma-banned. And then we had a big fuck up on the forums resulting in a very confused me being totally-perma-banned.
/end story

_________________
C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.

If I were to place TnTs with the steps that activate redstone on top of them everywhere, would that be considered grief? Even if I intended them to blow up cows, etc?

_________________
Inferiority is the true ascendancy.

The point is that it's fun for people who aren't killjoys?

It was fun because you could do what you want for abit, build whatever and blow up whatever. It doesn't have to be weekly or something, should just be a couple of one offs, not just on Notch updates. I mean if you don't like it let other people enjoy it, I'm sure one day away from the map wont lead to trauma.

Killjoy? So, by saying I don't see the point in making a new useless map every thursday for one or two people to have fun destroying everything they see, I'm a killjoy? Hmmmk

Also, you are wrong, some players have been demoted for "blowing up whatever" they wanted, the rules apply just like on the real SpA world.

So besides building adminium houses, which is not fun, I don't see the point in this. Sorry.

_________________
<+Thaw111> although im shit at speeling
<+Thaw111> type
<+Thaw111> gtypo
<+Thaw111> typo
<+Thaw111> shit

Yeah pando you are a killjoy Also its every TUESDAY But maybe just twice a month? or once? itd be fun! a nice change from all the hard work we put into the regular map.

_________________
Not in cruelty. Not in wrath. The Reaper came today; an Angel visited this gray path, and took the cube away.

I don't think so guys. If we want to keep our ranks on those days, the zones and homes and warps stay set to their coordinates too. That can fuck things up.

_________________
It was used to emphasize the point, and is generally accepted by the grammar nazi community.

If you want your own map to blow shit up on try SP, I don't see why we have to make a map every week just for you to blow the terrain up -.- .

_________________
[22:07] <@FBB2> +Ollieboy: %d+Pandorum%f: So Ollie when shall we have sex again?
[22:07] <@Xesdra_> fail
[22:07] <@FBB2> +Ollieboy: Noo the say failed me
[22:08] <@FBB1> +Pandorum: LOL

Don't try and make it out like no one wants temp maps, ingame a lot of people said they'd like to do it again, a lot of people enjoyed themselves. Some people built more that day then they did in like week on smp, because they just could, and it didn't matter for a change. A couple of people can't just piss on that, just because they, themselves don't see the point in it. Be reasonable, and considerate.
Yeah that's a problem, but then again, disabling the ranks and plugins would just make it more true to survival. Because people could just spawn kits depending on their rank, giving them an unfair boost anyway. You guys have control of a server here, and you can do anything with it to make it more fun, it's a game, and after the temp maps, I see how limited our freedom is on our map, but rightly so, we want to look after it. But just one off arranged events on temp maps, couldn't hurt could it?

Edit: It would also be an ideal way to test out PvP, or to test out the new plugins that will control the mobs.

It isn't pissing on it just because we don't agree with you.

I too don't want to see this happen. It doesn't sound very logical to me.

_________________
Breasts

We will pretty much have a temp map whenever notch adds new features. I really can't say we'll do that any other day though.

_________________
It was used to emphasize the point, and is generally accepted by the grammar nazi community.

And well - it's nice that you guys want temporary maps but like Hafnium said - we retain the settings and such and all of this would mean additional work for us just so several people can have nonsensical fun. I don't know about that.
And while some people are saying they would like that, others bug me every 5 minutes when the old map will come back, that they lost their homes and such.

I DO see a possible work-around by temporarily switching from MySQL to flatfiles but I really don't know about this idea. Again, always think about the administrative effort required to even keep this crap running as it is.

_________________
War does not determine who is right - only who is left. - Bertrand Russell

Well I wouldn't ask for it if there wasn't enough people in favour for it, and I'd also propose they were well anticipated events, so people know it's coming. I mean it wouldnt just be people going nuts with tnt, I'm talking about people building and starting from scratch, everyone in the same ganeral area just trying not to get killed and helping each other out.

Well yeah I'm happy in just knowing it's a possibility until we're in a position to play around abit.

Dont worry! Notch messes stuff up (updates) so often that we will probably have it every week anyways!

Its cool. So its not going to happen, big deal Its the thought that counts! Also, this way we can look FORWARD to lolnotch screw-ups

_________________
Not in cruelty. Not in wrath. The Reaper came today; an Angel visited this gray path, and took the cube away.

I can almost guarantee you that yes, yes it would.

_________________
Breasts

Try to keep a separate, basic server using flatfiles ready. When we have a LOLNOTCH update, simply launch the other server. Original server is then safe and sound.

_________________
C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.