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Bartg
 Post subject: Re: Scout update
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 01:13 
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Mach4 on spa servers is total failure - 3 engineers 3 snipers and a spy on each side and game is fucking unplayable :E And hell yeah for egypt, played it recently and i love it - first stage is a bit harsh to win, but maybe some spawn tweaking will be done.
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 02:16 
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cp_egypt as official map! I prayed for this :twisted: . But, it will be just like Turbine and Steel - people will hate it no matter how map is good :/ .
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Mach4 on spa servers is total failure - 3 engineers 3 snipers and a spy on each side and game is fucking unplayable :E
Because that's not a map for 26 players. 6v6 is even a bit too much on this map.
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Bartg
 Post subject: Re: Scout update
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 03:14 
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Its a decent map for 26 players, but if you get out of main buidling you see 3 snipers so you will probably be dead, if you manage to survive you will definitely encounter sentry farm :/
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MikeDH
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 08:52 
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Scout is least played because you are so fleshy, you die so easily, and it's so dependent on people missing you. Not just your skill.

I enjoy scouting A LOT, hit and run, in do major damage and get out, my K/D Ratio is never massive though, and due to the way Scouts get points, i'm hardly ever riding high in the tables. kill people or cap points. (other classes like soldier, get to pwn ass so they get a lot more points)

People want glory, not death :(

Hoping the new scattergun makes it more effective to kill people, or new ways to earn points, I don't want to push people away or blast jump.

I want to kiiiillllllll....

Although massive jumping will be useful, i can already see myself not using the new baseball bat, would rather blast jump and use my double jump to good effect.

As Sebas says, can't wait to try it and see how it all plays out :D

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 Post subject: Re: Scout update
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 09:11 
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the maps look nice , but the achievements are friggin hard without farming :|

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 Post subject: Re: Scout update
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 10:31 
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Bartg wrote:
Mach4 on spa servers is total failure - 3 engineers 3 snipers and a spy on each side and game is fucking unplayable :E
still better than 2fort :demm:



Another hint in the scout achievements: you need to kill enemies by pushing them off somewhere, that means that in the future you will get at least an assist when somebody drops down somewhere and you have damaged him. This should have been in the game from the start tbh :D
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sebas
 Post subject: Re: Scout update
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 10:38 
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Yep. It should say something like:
[SpA]Minimoose fell to a clumsy death. [SpA]sebas helped.
Or pushed. Or grins. xD

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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 11:08 
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[SpA]demm wrote:
Bartg wrote:
Mach4 on spa servers is total failure - 3 engineers 3 snipers and a spy on each side and game is fucking unplayable :E
still better than 2fort :demm:
You wash your mouth with soap!

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[SpA]Relentless
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 13:55 
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[SpA]Spikespiegel wrote:
[SpA]demm wrote:
still better than 2fort :demm:
You wash your mouth with soap!
But... its true? =D

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[SpA]Blackhawk
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 14:15 
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Seeing cp_egypt I immediatly thought of Lim complaining about the buggy mapped... and it was removed on the custom weekend, before I could test it... but I'm pretty sure that Valve did some testing on it. I don't think they would pack a technically broken map into an offical update.

I'm happy that they worked on fastlane. Imho it's a nice map, but I totally suck on it. Have my worst K:D ratio on it. With some tweaking it really could become a decent map.

@Scout: As I'm not fixed on any particular class I also like playing scout. Running around like a maniac on dope is quite some fun... although I'm a sucky scout it's fun. I even managed once to dominate another player as scout. I simply had to laugh as the scout started to laugh manically about the domination.

Now it's time to clean up Natasha... lots of Scouts have to be killed! :mrgreen:

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Lim-Dul
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 15:13 
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Also, it will be time to dust off the Steam Achievement Manager and fire up a local server with achievementbox_pyro on it to help others get the unlocks "legally". ^^

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[SpA]Johnny
 Post subject: Re: Scout update
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 15:16 
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[SpA]Blackhawk wrote:
Now it's time to clean up Natasha... lots of Scouts have to be killed! :mrgreen:
Don't forget about Sasha. :mrgreen:
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sebas
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 15:16 
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[SpA]Blackhawk wrote:
Now it's time to clean up Natasha... lots of Scouts have to be killed! :mrgreen:
Noooo, no you wouldn't!! Who would be so cruel as to play with natascha right after the pack is out? :cry:

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Bartg
 Post subject: Re: Scout update
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 15:35 
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
Also, it will be time to dust off the Steam Achievement Manager and fire up a local server with achievementbox_pyro on it to help others get the unlocks "legally". ^^
Im up as always for some farming ^_>
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[SpA]SonnyBlack
 Post subject: Re: Scout update
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 16:21 
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Bartg wrote:
[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
Also, it will be time to dust off the Steam Achievement Manager and fire up a local server with achievementbox_pyro on it to help others get the unlocks "legally". ^^
Im up as always for some farming ^_>
The eariler the better. :mrgreen:
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[SpA]Minimoose!
 Post subject: Re: Scout update
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 17:18 
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
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Engineer xD Thats me whenever mach4 comes on.
Huh? And you manage to do anything as an engineer on mach4? ;-)
I guess the soldiers and demos are too noobish. ^^
Last night I stayed alive for 18 minutes as engi and got something like 20 kills and was 2nd on scoreboard (1st was a sniper). All this while spamming the text chat continually while the other engi's repaired my stuff :mrgreen: I have a pretty decent place for my sentry if I have a half competent team ;)

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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 17:35 
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[SpA]sebas wrote:
[SpA]Blackhawk wrote:
Now it's time to clean up Natasha... lots of Scouts have to be killed! :mrgreen:
Noooo, no you wouldn't!! Who would be so cruel as to play with natascha right after the pack is out? :cry:
I would! Doctors always know the right medicine! :D

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[SpA]Minimoose!
 Post subject: Re: Scout update
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[SpA]sebas wrote:
Yep. It should say something like:
[SpA]Minimoose fell to a clumsy death. [SpA]sebas helped.
Or pushed. Or grins. xD
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[SpA]cookye
 Post subject: Re: Scout update
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 17:50 
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[SpA]sebas wrote:
Yep. It should say something like:
[SpA]Minimoose fell to a clumsy death. [SpA]sebas helped.
Or pushed. Or grins. xD
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Bartg
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 18:15 
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I would love to see kill asists on airblasting people into pit on Steel :mrgreen:
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MikeDH
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 22:06 
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Someone was on gamefaqs Q_Qing about the achievement "quick hook", kill someone before the round starts on cp_well.

Interesting, it clears up the "should i shoot through the cars" thing. I had a test and it's pretty hard nay impossible ti double jump into enemy side, but with the Force-a-Nature it'll be easy.

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sebas
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 22:14 
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[SpA]MikeDH wrote:
I had a test and it's pretty hard nay impossible ti double jump into enemy side
No, it's not. :P
I can't do it easily but there are many people who've practiced it enough. Don't really know why since it's a sure way to get yourself killed but..myeah.

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[SpA]MikeDH wrote:
Someone was on gamefaqs Q_Qing about the achievement "quick hook", kill someone before the round starts on cp_well.

Interesting, it clears up the "should i shoot through the cars" thing. I had a test and it's pretty hard nay impossible ti double jump into enemy side, but with the Force-a-Nature it'll be easy.
Join red team, jump on the lamp on the left side - eh voilá^^

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[SpA]Minimoose!
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 22:29 
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^Beat me to it, ignore the rest of my post ;)
[SpA]sebas wrote:
[SpA]MikeDH wrote:
I had a test and it's pretty hard nay impossible ti double jump into enemy side
No, it's not. :P
I can't do it easily but there are many people who've practiced it enough. Don't really know why since it's a sure way to get yourself killed but..myeah.
I thought you had to be on the right colour though, i dont know which one it is. (Your talking about the lamp post right?)

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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2009, 23:00 
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
^Beat me to it, ignore the rest of my post ;)
[SpA]sebas wrote:
No, it's not. :P
I can't do it easily but there are many people who've practiced it enough. Don't really know why since it's a sure way to get yourself killed but..myeah.
I thought you had to be on the right colour though, i dont know which one it is. (Your talking about the lamp post right?)
Oh i didn't even see a lamp post, i just tested the distance and any wall stuff i could jump onto.

Even easier achievement with the force-a-nature :p

edit: Is the update out on tuesday for sure or wednesday? Can't decide if i should go out or stay in :P

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[SpA]MikeDH wrote:
[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
^Beat me to it, ignore the rest of my post ;)



I thought you had to be on the right colour though, i dont know which one it is. (Your talking about the lamp post right?)
Oh i didn't even see a lamp post, i just tested the distance and any wall stuff i could jump onto.

Even easier achievement with the force-a-nature :p

edit: Is the update out on tuesday for sure or wednesday? Can't decide if i should go out or stay in :P
I guess they will bring it out on Wednesday 01:00 cet in the morning :P Or sth like that.

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[SpA]Relentless wrote:
[SpA]MikeDH wrote:
Someone was on gamefaqs Q_Qing about the achievement "quick hook", kill someone before the round starts on cp_well.

Interesting, it clears up the "should i shoot through the cars" thing. I had a test and it's pretty hard nay impossible ti double jump into enemy side, but with the Force-a-Nature it'll be easy.
Join red team, jump on the lamp on the left side - eh voilá^^
I can't see the lamps anymore with the cfg i have :|


Egypt sux. Only the theme is nice looking. The gameplay isn't good at all. Let's hope valve tuned it a bit (i doubt it though).

Scatter-jumps ? :roll:
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I can't see the lamps anymore with the cfg i have
I cant see them either :P
But Im so pro I know where they are and can jump on them still :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: 22 Feb 2009, 16:50 
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uhm... looking at the achivement...

"Kill 5 enemies with the First Blood crit buff."

there's a first blood crit buff now?

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[SpA]Mint wrote:
uhm... looking at the achivement...

"Kill 5 enemies with the First Blood crit buff."

there's a first blood crit buff now?
At least in arena mode, if you read the achievement above:
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First Blood: Get the first kill in an Arena match.

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