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Author:  Bartg [ 21 May 2009, 02:33 ]
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Haha it is Jarate, some awesome usages
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Jarate is a thrown jar that splashes upon impact. When splashed on enemies, they take 35% more damage for a period of time. Jumping in water will wash off Jarate. Jarate is also able to short out Spies’ cloaking devices. When used on teammates, Jarate will extinguish any fire effects.
:mrgreen:
Author:  Marmelada [ 21 May 2009, 03:06 ]
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I love the steam forums:" ewwww urine, that is so disgusting. I quit tf2!; Sniper is dead to me... not gonna play the class anymore; Petition against Jarate" and so on.
I look forward to covering all of you with piss!
Author:  Sawyer [ 21 May 2009, 03:15 ]
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If anyone happens to wonder where Valve got the idea for this comic:

Image
Author:  [SpA]futari [ 21 May 2009, 08:56 ]
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So.. the April fools joke is overdue.. when is it coming? o:
Author:  dckjns [ 21 May 2009, 09:28 ]
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Updates are usually released on Thursdays, I believe.

That'd be sometime during the night to Friday to us, thanks to pacific time.

High-res version of the comic Sawyer posted:
Author:  [SpA]futari [ 21 May 2009, 09:32 ]
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I know it's released tonight, I want a new April fools joke since valve had none this year o:
Author:  Crovax20 [ 21 May 2009, 09:44 ]
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so looks like they are turning the sniper into an anti spy class

what will jarate replace though? The SMG or the Kukri..

35% more damage as well people that get hit by it, stealth heavy buff? High damage classes will benefit quite a bit from snipers who just keep on throwing jarate, but I am guessing it will be on the same cooldown as the sandman.
Author:  [SpA]Baal Kagan [ 21 May 2009, 09:47 ]
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[SpA]Crovax20 wrote:
so looks like they are turning the sniper into an anti spy class

what will jarate replace though? The SMG or the Kukri..

35% more damage as well people that get hit by it, stealth heavy buff? High damage classes will benefit quite a bit from snipers who just keep on throwing jarate, but I am guessing it will be on the same cooldown as the sandman.
i guess it'll be ze SMG cuz there's an achievement called "Jarate Chop" but i dunno~
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 21 May 2009, 09:58 ]
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What if there is a map without water? Does getting a med pack remove its effects? If not then it's stupid.
Author:  sebas [ 21 May 2009, 10:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: The spy update
Well, the effect vanishes on it's own but yeh, a medpack should clear it. But heavy's are fudged by the update...again.
Marmelada wrote:
I love the steam forums:" ewwww urine, that is so disgusting. I quit tf2!; Sniper is dead to me... not gonna play the class anymore; Petition against Jarate" and so on.
lol yeah. This dude's post is epic though http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s ... p?t=867675

btw guys, FREE WEEKEND starting today (which means the update hits today too). Tell your friends.
Author:  [SpA]Dekar [ 21 May 2009, 10:34 ]
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Jarate is actually another heavy nerf because they are the class with the worst evasion abilities.
Author:  saifon [ 21 May 2009, 10:38 ]
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Someone on the forums said that both Jarate and Razorback might be replacements for SMG and that the melee-unlocks are coming tomorrow... Might be possible actually :P
Author:  Crovax20 [ 21 May 2009, 10:39 ]
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yet they also pump out the most damage, so anyone who gets hit by jarate will die pretty much instantly from a heavy. Its a double edged sword.
Author:  sebas [ 21 May 2009, 10:41 ]
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Heavies are boned to spies and snipers and a heavy+medic will lose against a demo+medic as long as the fatty doesn't get the upperhand. They're also boned to sandman. And now to jarate (+35% dmg cancels the heavy's hp advange, which just makes him MORE of a sitting duck).
That's a lotta things workign against you as a heavy.


edit.
Oww, maaaan, check out the steamforums. Protesting against a jar of urine (jarate actually makes sense with the sniper's whole savanna look). That's a lot of fun.
Author:  [SpA]Scatterbrain [ 21 May 2009, 10:57 ]
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if jarate 'works', then I bet that the unlock for the demoman's melee will be usable as a molotov cocktail if he gets set on fire.

I'm also thinking jarate spam + huntsman spam = pain
Author:  [SpA]Repel [ 21 May 2009, 11:19 ]
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Love the idea of this. :P Bit annoying for spys since they already have enough to watch out for.
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 21 May 2009, 11:43 ]
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One sniper hits with jarate, other uses huntsmen = dead
Author:  sebas [ 21 May 2009, 11:45 ]
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Exactly. Wanna be hunting buddies? :mrgreen:

The only issue is however that they have added NOTHING to the sniper's survivability so he'll remain a 125hp class with no evasion manuevers in the middle of the fight. Soldiers and demo's are going to eat them alive.
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 21 May 2009, 11:53 ]
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that jarate sounds rather gay
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 21 May 2009, 12:27 ]
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[SpA]sebas wrote:
Exactly. Wanna be hunting buddies? :mrgreen:

The only issue is however that they have added NOTHING to the sniper's survivability so he'll remain a 125hp class with no evasion manuevers in the middle of the fight. Soldiers and demo's are going to eat them alive.
1/3 team sniper, 1/3 team spies and 1/3 team medics.

Medics uber the snipers, they chuck jarate over everyone, then use the huntsman and headshot the bollocks off everyone. Spies come in just after the jarate is chucked, with the ambassador and blow the crap out of everyone as well. Win.

It would work better with more offensive classes, but it would be funny to see this team own a normal team :P
Author:  [SpA]Mr.green [ 21 May 2009, 12:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: The spy update
yea and its time to buy these classimmunitys so you can be one of those 5 snipers in one team (or 5 spyes) :ugly:
Author:  staberas [ 21 May 2009, 12:32 ]
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ROLF

http://forum.specialattack.net/viewtopi ... 033#p73033 :ugly: :ugly:
[SpA]SaintK wrote:
that jarate sounds rather gay
let's test it first ...
Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 21 May 2009, 12:37 ]
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Steam forums = epic! :ugly:
Author:  staberas [ 21 May 2009, 12:46 ]
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yep , 4chan of tf2
Author:  Bartg [ 21 May 2009, 15:10 ]
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I like how they trying to make sniper more into teamplay - extinguishing any fire effects, throwing at other players for more damage or into spies, so they are trying to make snipers less sitting ducks on 2fort snipers balcony, more involved into team. But who cares, just gimme Ambasador so I can be Clint Eastwood and gonna fuck some snipers :mrgreen:
Author:  Lim-Dul [ 21 May 2009, 15:39 ]
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By the way - somebody printed out the order coupon that was posted one day during the scout update and mailed it to Valve. They actually responded! :-D
LOL!
Author:  [SpA]Relentless [ 21 May 2009, 16:09 ]
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
By the way - somebody printed out the order coupon that was posted one day during the scout update and mailed it to Valve. They actually responded! :-D
LOL!
:mrgreen:
Author:  Bartg [ 21 May 2009, 16:09 ]
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Hahaha you have to love this guys :mrgreen:
Author:  saifon [ 21 May 2009, 17:13 ]
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
By the way - somebody printed out the order coupon that was posted one day during the scout update and mailed it to Valve. They actually responded! :-D
LOL!
Old :P That's how I knew that The Ambassador was the spy's new weapon before it was out :P
Author:  nocomment [ 21 May 2009, 19:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: The spy update
Question i want to know is will there be a rush of retards.....sorry i mean spy rushes and such so try and whore the achievements like there has been with the past updates? medic, scout and pyro rushes etc :roll:
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