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Author:  [SpA]cookye [ 21 May 2009, 19:25 ]
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ofc

Author:  [SpA]futari [ 21 May 2009, 19:36 ]
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There will be many snipers/spies.. but there should be class limitations.. or just go pyro :D

Like in the community match with 9 spies xP

Author:  sebas [ 21 May 2009, 19:40 ]
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We don't know if the unlockables will still be linked with the achievments. Valve announced they wanted to change the system, not sure if begining with this update or not.

Author:  [SpA]SonnyBlack [ 21 May 2009, 19:41 ]
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It is thursday, where is the update? :|

Author:  Lim-Dul [ 21 May 2009, 19:42 ]
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The unlockables won't be tied to the achievements - notice how there aren't any milestones for both the Sniper and the Spy.

Author:  sebas [ 21 May 2009, 19:44 ]
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They never announced milestones, did they?
And sonny, we have to wait 'till tomorrow morning to play it probably. I mean, pacific time is -9h for you and 10 for me. :P

Author:  Lim-Dul [ 21 May 2009, 19:45 ]
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Oh, indeed they haven't. ^^

Author:  [SpA]SonnyBlack [ 21 May 2009, 19:46 ]
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For them it is thursday too. Why waiting for the evening/night, why not taking the thursday, when everyone has it? :(

Author:  sebas [ 21 May 2009, 19:51 ]
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For them, as we speak, it's Thursday 7am. They're not even awake yet, how do you expect them to be updating servers. xD

Author:  Barbas [ 21 May 2009, 20:10 ]
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I knew i should have invested more time in sniper and spy. Oh well I guess I'll be one of the n00b spies/snipers flooding the servers

Author:  Bartg [ 21 May 2009, 20:26 ]
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Updates usually came about 11-12pm CET ;) And I think they wont introduce new weapon unlocks system yet. And I did this config for relaxed pyro play during first few days of update
alias "WM1" "+forward; +attack"
alias "SM1" "+back; +attack"
alias "AXE" "slot3; +forward; +attack"
bind "mouse1" "WM1"
bind "mouse2" "SM1"
bind "mouse3" "AXE"
So you have free hand to change tv channels or eat carrots, while spies keep burning :mrgreen:

Author:  sebas [ 21 May 2009, 22:36 ]
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I would really lol at that if I didn't know I'd be one of the noob spies who'll end up ashes. :<

Author:  Shizz [ 21 May 2009, 22:56 ]
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Sniper being my fave class.. im really really looking forward to this :D

Bow & Arrow's wooooooooooot :D

Author:  nocomment [ 21 May 2009, 23:38 ]
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We can play cowboys(or cowgirls) and indians, Pyro's can be the indians with thier axetinguihers and snipers can be the cowboys but with arrows :lol:

Author:  [SpA]MrOrange [ 22 May 2009, 00:25 ]
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I'd say Spies as Cowboys with the Ambassador and Snipers as Indians with their bows :D

Author:  nocomment [ 22 May 2009, 00:42 ]
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[SpA]Mr Orange wrote:
I'd say Spies as Cowboys with the Ambassador and Snipers as Indians with their bows :D
That too. think SpA should have theme night :lol:

Author:  Bartg [ 22 May 2009, 02:37 ]
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OMG its out and spy receives everything we wanted !
Quote:
Spies disguised as enemy spies now get a random mask to help complete the disguise, and their target id will be set appropriately

Spies disguised as medics now have an Ubercharge: line in their disguise target info

Spies outward facing "disguise health" now matches their disguise target when they first apply the disguise

Spies can now pick up health kits for their "disguise health", even when uninjured
Added 70 new Spy voice lines

I love Valve i wanna marry them !
And yes new payload map !
Quote:
Added new map, Pipeline. Pipeline is the first map in a new game mode named payload race, which uses two carts in each map instead of only one like traditional payload maps

Added new arena map Sawmill

Added new arena map Nucleus

Added new community payload map Hoodoo
:mrgreen:

Author:  Marmelada [ 22 May 2009, 02:50 ]
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Now this is an impressive update, however I'm a bit worried about the following:

Added new revolver replacement, The Ambassador. First shot is very accurate and will cause a critical hit if it hits an enemy's head. Accuracy is poor for a period after that

Added new watch replacement, the Dead Ringer. When armed, you will appear in all ways to die to the first damage you take from an enemy. You'll be cloaked for 8 second after taking this damage. Upon de-cloaking you'll make a loud, distinct sound

The ambassador sounds overpowered, a good spy should kill any class now one on one except maybe heavies and the dead ringer's distinct sound seems like a weird decision.
Not sure if I can go to bed now, update the servers quick I need to play :D

Author:  Bartg [ 22 May 2009, 03:00 ]
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Damn now spy is complete
Quote:
Spies that disguise as a player using an unlockable now show that unlockable in hand

Spies can now use enemy teleporters
:) :) :)

Author:  Lim-Dul [ 22 May 2009, 03:03 ]
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Unbelievable! 0_o

And please, please don't start about anything being overpowered before we actually get to test it - if anything is wrong I'm sure it will be fixed in the coming weeks but testing needs time.

As to the Spy changes (some of them at least) I actually wonder why they hadn't been implemented for such a long time...

Most important change for me:
Quote:
* You now find new and old items as you play, instead of through achievements
FINALLY THEY LISTENED!

Another thing - all the new class hats (from the Steam Forums):

Scout: http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/692...elmetlarge.png

Soldier: http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/839...erhatlarge.png

Pyro: http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1387/pyrohatlarge.png

Demoman: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8757/demoafrolarge.png

Heavy: http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/483...elmetlarge.png

Engineer: http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/778...nghatlarge.png

Medic: http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/614...elmetlarge.png

Sniper: http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2224/toothhatlarge.png

Spy: http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5484/spyhatlarge.png

Author:  [SpA]SonnyBlack [ 22 May 2009, 04:00 ]
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Also interesting.
Quote:
- Flamethrower's air burst now extinguishes fire on friendly targets

Author:  Lim-Dul [ 22 May 2009, 04:10 ]
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Yeah - lots of ways to extinguish people now. =)

Anyways - I think it's time to go to sleep as the Steam Network TOTALLY crashed with perhaps one region in the world not having problems as evidenced by the massive user count drop:

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

Author:  Bartg [ 22 May 2009, 04:45 ]
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Sooo you have to randomly find for example Ambasador to use it ? If you for example can collect new weapons in few hours its ok, it means less people doing stupid things for achievements and new weapons, I read, that you can have full backpack of the same weapon, which means youll have to delete them all the time.
All new hats
Image
OMG pyros can light huntsman arrows before sniper shoot and make them flares ( req for achievement actually ) :shock: :twisted: :mrgreen:

Author:  sebas [ 22 May 2009, 08:12 ]
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Find the new weapons? FIND them? Where the fuck am I supposed to look?! :(

Author:  [SpA]Relentless [ 22 May 2009, 08:29 ]
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Bartg wrote:
Updates usually came about 11-12pm CET ;) And I think they wont introduce new weapon unlocks system yet. And I did this config for relaxed pyro play during first few days of update
alias "WM1" "slot1; +forward; +attack"
alias "SM1" "slot1; +back; +attack"
alias "AXE" "slot3; +forward; +attack"
bind "mouse1" "WM1"
bind "mouse2" "SM1"
bind "mouse3" "AXE"
So you have free hand to change tv channels or eat carrots, while spies keep burning :mrgreen:
Fixed for ya ;D

Author:  Crovax20 [ 22 May 2009, 08:40 ]
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so the spy doesn't get a new melee weapon.. thats a bit lame

Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 22 May 2009, 09:47 ]
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Its stupid that you can get weapons you already have, so you have to get 6 items out of 15 or w/e it is, you could start off with getting 6 ones you already have :/

lol, what would the melee weapon be? It would change the spy from being a spy to something else, kind of like what they did to the sniper actually, they made him a red indian.

Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 22 May 2009, 09:56 ]
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Woah... nice update. Lots of small details changed. :4

Author:  [SpA]futari [ 22 May 2009, 10:03 ]
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[SpA]Crovax20 wrote:
so the spy doesn't get a new melee weapon.. thats a bit lame
he never had a decent melee weapon, safe for it getting backstabs.

Author:  [SpA]Scatterbrain [ 22 May 2009, 11:08 ]
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first impressions on the new update:
double payload is manic and brilliant
the new unlock system, while getting rid of achievement farmers and such, does feel a bit... rubbish. it's a bit too random and I'm unlocking things I've already got (KGB again)
the huntsman is lethal - both literally, and in the way that it's completely shitting terrifying
jars of piss can be used for snipers to put extinguish themselved! heehee

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