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Author:  ProtectMyBalls [ 20 Jul 2011, 19:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

[SpA]Revenge wrote:
lol as long as i stay on the same team as saint , i don't care what the hell it does
:cry: that is pretty beautiful dawg :cry:

Author:  Phenomenon [ 20 Jul 2011, 19:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

Cant you make it 100% random scramble? :5:

Author:  [SpA]Dekar [ 20 Jul 2011, 19:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

I thought its already 100% random. :lol:

Author:  ProtectMyBalls [ 20 Jul 2011, 21:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

It needs to based on something otherwise it doesn't solve the problem of unbalanced teams; just jumbles the problem and makes new ones.

Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 21 Jul 2011, 14:47 ]
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
What confuses me is this;
Code:
// 11 = Use HlxCe Rank
// 12 = Use HlxCe Skill
My guess:

Ranks are a linear value: 1, 2, 3, 4, ...
Skill is a curve: 70k, 55k, 53k, ...

So skill could be finer granulated?

Author:  [SpA]Voegelchen [ 22 Jul 2011, 10:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

09:51 - Vögelchen: is the low ping limiter plugin not working anymore?
09:52 - spaservers: nope it broke
09:52 - spaservers: Kinda forgot to check that one out
09:52 - spaservers: would u mind making a quick post about it?
09:52 - Vögelchen: good that you have a bird
09:52 - spaservers: Then i'll look at it asap
09:52 - Vögelchen: sure

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 22 Jul 2011, 10:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

[SpA]Voegelchen wrote:
09:51 - Vögelchen: is the low ping limiter plugin not working anymore?
09:52 - spaservers: nope it broke
09:52 - spaservers: Kinda forgot to check that one out
09:52 - spaservers: would u mind making a quick post about it?
09:52 - Vögelchen: good that you have a bird
09:52 - spaservers: Then i'll look at it asap
09:52 - Vögelchen: sure
Fixed, thanks

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 22 Jul 2011, 10:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

For some strange reason the gscramble settings file was empty (?!?!?!) on the vanilla servers, so it ran by default config.

I've restored the settings file now, and I have experimentally changed the sorting mode to option 4.

Please provide us with feedback from *only* the vanilla server scrambles, and then not on the reasons why it scrambles, but if the actual scrambles make sense (i.e. are the teams indeed improved after the scamble?)

Author:  ProtectMyBalls [ 22 Jul 2011, 10:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

[SpA]SaintK wrote:
For some strange reason the gscramble settings file was empty (?!?!?!) on the vanilla servers, so it ran by default config.
Didn't anna clear them out? or was that something else?

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 22 Jul 2011, 10:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

[SpA]ProtectMyBalls wrote:
[SpA]SaintK wrote:
For some strange reason the gscramble settings file was empty (?!?!?!) on the vanilla servers, so it ran by default config.
Didn't anna clear them out? or was that something else?
She cleared out the per-map configs, somehow the gScramble overall config file had a line in it "//this file is suppose to be empty"

I think that was from the old per-map-type config structure which was removed upon rebuilding gScramble on the no-crtiz server. Somehow the new settings never transferred to the vanilla servers it seems.

Author:  ProtectMyBalls [ 22 Jul 2011, 11:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

Ok cool, me and zombie have been given the task to review some scramble config stuff, so should be having a look at that on the weekend. :)

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 22 Jul 2011, 11:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

[SpA]ProtectMyBalls wrote:
Ok cool, me and zombie have been given the task to review some scramble config stuff, so should be having a look at that on the weekend. :)
Did you get the current configs?

What needs to be done is that the overall config indeed needs to be cleared, and they need to be implemented per map type, or per map. But I think map-type would be the best for starters, cause it's a daunting task to get it all configured and thought out right.

Current it's global, next stage per map type, and perhaps if really required we can go down to per-map.

Author:  ProtectMyBalls [ 22 Jul 2011, 11:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

http://forum.specialattack.net/viewtopi ... 09#p169509

That is the work that Anna has set me and zombie. But we are unsure about whether or not she wants us to physically update and setup the cfgs, which we haven't been shown how to properly or where they are kept.

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 22 Jul 2011, 11:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

[SpA]ProtectMyBalls wrote:
http://forum.specialattack.net/viewtopi ... 09#p169509

That is the work that Anna has set me and zombie. But we are unsure about whether or not she wants us to physically update and setup the cfgs, which we haven't been shown how to properly or where they are kept.
Uhm, that confuses me :mrgreen: I think she wants you 2 to sort out the dynamic maps plugin and all the dependencies etc. That needs finishing up first.

Author:  ProtectMyBalls [ 22 Jul 2011, 11:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

Was my message confusing? :( I'm just unsure if she wants us to implement or prepare values/notes etc.

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 22 Jul 2011, 11:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

[SpA]ProtectMyBalls wrote:
Was my message confusing? :( I'm just unsure if she wants us to implement or prepare values/notes etc.
No, she confuses :mrgreen:

I think you need to prepare the DMR configs so she can review/implement them when she's back. After that we can go ahead with gScramble.

Author:  ProtectMyBalls [ 22 Jul 2011, 12:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

Cool, thought as much, ill have a look on the weekend before i go on holiday :D

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 22 Jul 2011, 17:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

Seen a few good scrambles now on vanilla.

Author:  [SpA]JuncoPartner [ 22 Jul 2011, 17:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

Someone claimed that they were switched while capturing a point.

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 22 Jul 2011, 18:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

[SpA]JuncoPartner wrote:
Someone claimed that they were switched while capturing a point.
A scramble mid round?

Author:  [SpA]JuncoPartner [ 22 Jul 2011, 18:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

It was just that guy who got switched, I didn't think you could be switched while capturing a point.

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 22 Jul 2011, 18:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

[SpA]JuncoPartner wrote:
It was just that guy who got switched, I didn't think you could be switched while capturing a point.
Didn't knew it switched alive people at all :0

Author:  ProtectMyBalls [ 22 Jul 2011, 18:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

I've been switched while alive as well, failed to mention it though... like a fool! But yeah, i always assumed the scramble waited till death etc.

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 24 Jul 2011, 18:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

scramble sortmode is now set to "points per minute" on all servers.

Author:  annarack [ 25 Jul 2011, 18:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

[SpA]SaintK wrote:
[SpA]ProtectMyBalls wrote:
Was my message confusing? :( I'm just unsure if she wants us to implement or prepare values/notes etc.
No, she confuses :mrgreen:

I think you need to prepare the DMR configs so she can review/implement them when she's back. After that we can go ahead with gScramble.
I confuse what?

...and yes, I don't want you to implement it, just gather the required information. There was no mention of you implenting it so why would you think that?

Author:  ShadowKnight [ 20 Sep 2011, 01:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

Scrambling with regard to points per minute is definitely the best way of doing things. However, it would be very nice to be able to stack it, having points per minute AND player classes taken into account. Is this possible with the current plugin, or would that require some hefty re-programming?

Author:  Alris [ 20 Sep 2011, 18:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

you really shouldn't use 4 as 4 actively discriminates against people primarily playing Medics.


edit 4 being Kill/Death Ratio

Author:  ProtectMyBalls [ 20 Sep 2011, 19:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

There is a current problem though with the scramble moving all the medics onto just one team due to high points.

I'm not sure if scramble options can be stacked though.

Author:  PetePorty [ 20 Sep 2011, 19:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

IMHO, if your team has too many medics, just pick another class... I don't see what the problem is, TBH.

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 20 Sep 2011, 19:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: The auto balance plugin

The scramble mod takes classes into account. It has high, medium and low priority classes. It will try to keep that balanced while doing a scramble.

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