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Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 24 Mar 2009, 00:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: The *real* reason why Minimoose leads the stats
EtsSpets wrote:
[SpA]MikeDH wrote:


YOUS TRROOOLLLLLLLLIN'
Ok i am, and this is one of the few posts ive "trolled" with ! :) srsly. But cmon, the first post suggest the dude uses drugs and the following refer to prostitution ? Im just suggesting that maybe the poor man should see some sun once in a while, you know. So no offense intended.

In addition i just noticed, your forum moderator shares my sense (or the lack of) humor, as the stats get (too) high the forum poster status is defined as "Has no REAL life!", so go figure. It seems that "trolling" is an essential part of almost every Spa member :)
No, because we actually have got to know each other, so we understand everyones sense of humour... The drugs thing was funny, ever heard of it?

Since I go to college every day and study nearly every type of mathematics known ever I do need a break, and TF2 is a nice break from work. I'm doing a course of maths in 1 year that is normally done over 2 years and then physics and chemistry added onto that which most of the time is practically maths. Also I hate most of it, so yeah pretty much I need something that isn't maths.
Author:  [SpA]Migu [ 24 Mar 2009, 00:20 ]
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EtsSpets wrote:
[SpA]MikeDH wrote:


YOUS TRROOOLLLLLLLLIN'
Ok i am, and this is one of the few posts ive "trolled" with ! :) srsly. But cmon, the first post suggest the dude uses drugs and the following refer to prostitution ? Im just suggesting that maybe the poor man should see some sun once in a while, you know. So no offense intended.

In addition i just noticed, your forum moderator shares my sense (or the lack of) humor, as the stats get (too) high the forum poster status is defined as "Has no REAL life!", so go figure. It seems that "trolling" is an essential part of almost every Spa member :)
You really should try and understand the humor around here! :wink: :wink:
Don't take things too serious mate.
Author:  EtsSpets [ 24 Mar 2009, 12:39 ]
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[SpA]Migu wrote:
EtsSpets wrote:
Ok i am, and this is one of the few posts ive "trolled" with ! :) srsly. But cmon, the first post suggest the dude uses drugs and the following refer to prostitution ? Im just suggesting that maybe the poor man should see some sun once in a while, you know. So no offense intended.

In addition i just noticed, your forum moderator shares my sense (or the lack of) humor, as the stats get (too) high the forum poster status is defined as "Has no REAL life!", so go figure. It seems that "trolling" is an essential part of almost every Spa member :)
You really should try and understand the humor around here! :wink: :wink:
Don't take things too serious mate.
The pains of being a newb to the community i suppose :)
Author:  MikeDH [ 24 Mar 2009, 13:40 ]
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EtsSpets wrote:
[SpA]Migu wrote:

You really should try and understand the humor around here! :wink: :wink:
Don't take things too serious mate.
The pains of being a newb to the community i suppose :)
it's.. not like... you kno...

ok whatever lol.
Author:  [SpA]Relentless [ 24 Mar 2009, 19:14 ]
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
Since I go to college every day and study nearly every type of mathematics known ever I do need a break, and TF2 is a nice break from work. I'm doing a course of maths in 1 year that is normally done over 2 years and then physics and chemistry added onto that which most of the time is practically maths. Also I hate most of it, so yeah pretty much I need something that isn't maths.
You are a soldier vs a heavy/medic combo. The Heavy got buffed to 450hp and he doesnt move or shoot at all. The medic is constantly healing the heavy.
Youre standing directly at the heavy and we assume your rocket instantly hits the heavy after shooting for 112dmg.
You got a clipsize of 4 rockets and it takes you 4 seconds to shoot all the rockets.
If you then fully reload and shoot all the rockets again, it took you 8 seconds for 4 rockets.
If you reload one rocket and shoot, it took you 12 seconds to shoot 4 rockets.
The medic is healing with 12hp/second.

Assuming you dont suffer from self damage and dont get pushed back:

a) How long does it take you to kill the heavy if youre standing next to a resupply locker (you never need to reload)?
b) How long does it take you to kill the heavy if youre shooting 4 rockets, fully reload and shoot 4 rockets again (assuming you got infinite ammo to reload)?
c) How long does it take you to kill the heavy if youre shooting your first 4 rockets, then reload and shoot every rocket singlely (spelling?^^)(assuming you got infinite ammo to reload)?

You got 25 minutes after reading this to tell me the answers. Good Luck! :mrgreen: :18
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 24 Mar 2009, 19:53 ]
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A bit easy for me, give me some real questions :mrgreen: C3 and C4 (pure maths) are just agonising :cry:
Author:  [SpA]Migu [ 24 Mar 2009, 23:41 ]
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
A bit easy for me, give me some real questions :mrgreen: C3 and C4 (pure maths) are just agonising :cry:
Can you tell me more precise what kind of maths you do? I'm kinda curious right now. :wink:
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 24 Mar 2009, 23:56 ]
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[SpA]Migu wrote:
[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
A bit easy for me, give me some real questions :mrgreen: C3 and C4 (pure maths) are just agonising :cry:
Can you tell me more precise what kind of maths you do? I'm kinda curious right now. :wink:
Pure Maths and Mechanics :3

Pure Maths is things like trig identities/differentiation (product/quotient rule)/integration (by parts/substitution)/binomial expansion (ones where you have to take constant factors out to get to the form c(1-f(x))^power)

Mechanics is things like non-elastic collisions, coeff of friction, work done principles.

Mechanics in my physics lessons is mainly mechanics but easier.

Maths in chemistry is just addition/subtraction, but its unbelieveably boring due to this...

I find pure maths hard since a lot of it is algebraic and means we have to learn things very well, since they get pretty confusing with trig identities.
Author:  Greasy_greabo [ 25 Mar 2009, 03:25 ]
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x can never equal y.
Author:  [SpA]Migu [ 25 Mar 2009, 08:03 ]
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
[SpA]Migu wrote:

Can you tell me more precise what kind of maths you do? I'm kinda curious right now. :wink:
Pure Maths and Mechanics :3

Pure Maths is things like trig identities/differentiation (product/quotient rule)/integration (by parts/substitution)/binomial expansion (ones where you have to take constant factors out to get to the form c(1-f(x))^power)

Mechanics is things like non-elastic collisions, coeff of friction, work done principles.

Mechanics in my physics lessons is mainly mechanics but easier.

Maths in chemistry is just addition/subtraction, but its unbelieveably boring due to this...

I find pure maths hard since a lot of it is algebraic and means we have to learn things very well, since they get pretty confusing with trig identities.
Ah yeah, I see. Had and still have a lot of maths too. I could never study maths though, I would go crazy. :ugly:
Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 25 Mar 2009, 11:00 ]
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[SpA]Migu wrote:
I could never study maths though, I would go crazy. :ugly:
+1!!!

Already too much maths came with my computer science studies.
Author:  [SpA]Baal Kagan [ 25 Mar 2009, 12:02 ]
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[SpA]Blackhawk wrote:
[SpA]Migu wrote:
I could never study maths though, I would go crazy. :ugly:
+1!!!

Already too much maths came with my computer science studies.
gosh...maths... :|
Author:  Crovax20 [ 25 Mar 2009, 12:18 ]
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Hah, now we know why mini leads the stats. He studies maths so he knows exaclty how to get the most skillpoints since he can abuse the formula!
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 25 Mar 2009, 16:07 ]
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They used to use the ELO system, which is the same for chess ranking or something. I don't know what they use now.
Author:  [SpA]Relentless [ 25 Mar 2009, 16:42 ]
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The answers pls :demm:
Author:  [SpA]Edeph [ 26 Mar 2009, 16:02 ]
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lol i am still curious about the ranking system , well how do it works ? :ugly:
Author:  Bartg [ 26 Mar 2009, 18:20 ]
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Till version 3.0 they used elo system, now they use something different, what i was able to find is that you have to kill higher ranked players in orded to gain rank. But you cant find any more details, since psychostats official FAQ says "Starting with PsychoStats version 3.1 a new alternative formula is being used that is much more stable and seems to be more accurate overall. This new formula is the default so nothing needs to be done on your part to start using it once you upgrade to v3.1."
Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 26 Mar 2009, 18:28 ]
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Last time I looked into the code that formula was still Elo-like from the concept (gaining and loosing points depending on the skill of both players).
Author:  Mint [ 26 Mar 2009, 18:44 ]
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
A bit easy for me, give me some real questions :mrgreen: C3 and C4 (pure maths) are just agonising :cry:
notice how he avoids answering by instead of saying "I don't know", he goes about to actually brag that it's TOO EASY, but still refuses to answer.... minimoose is a lie!!
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 26 Mar 2009, 18:53 ]
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Bartg wrote:
Till version 3.0 they used elo system, now they use something different, what i was able to find is that you have to kill higher ranked players in orded to gain rank. But you cant find any more details, since psychostats official FAQ says "Starting with PsychoStats version 3.1 a new alternative formula is being used that is much more stable and seems to be more accurate overall. This new formula is the default so nothing needs to be done on your part to start using it once you upgrade to v3.1."
If you could only gain skill from killing people of a higher skill, then I would never be able to go up in skill :3
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 26 Mar 2009, 18:54 ]
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[SpA]Mint wrote:
[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
A bit easy for me, give me some real questions :mrgreen: C3 and C4 (pure maths) are just agonising :cry:
notice how he avoids answering by instead of saying "I don't know", he goes about to actually brag that it's TOO EASY, but still refuses to answer.... minimoose is a lie!!
Anyone can work that out, just simple multiplication and addition. I could show you some of the maths I had to do today, although i was doing algebra for 4 hours today so I really can't be arsed to scan it just to prove something :wink:
Author:  [SpA]Relentless [ 26 Mar 2009, 19:01 ]
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
[SpA]Mint wrote:
notice how he avoids answering by instead of saying "I don't know", he goes about to actually brag that it's TOO EASY, but still refuses to answer.... minimoose is a lie!!
Anyone can work that out, just simple multiplication and addition. I could show you some of the maths I had to do today, although i was doing algebra for 4 hours today so I really can't be arsed to scan it just to prove something :wink:
You got any idea of thermodynamic cycles? I could give you some of the examples we get lately (choose from Carnot, Joule, Otto or Diesel :mrgreen: )
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 26 Mar 2009, 20:00 ]
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[SpA]Relentless wrote:
[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:

Anyone can work that out, just simple multiplication and addition. I could show you some of the maths I had to do today, although i was doing algebra for 4 hours today so I really can't be arsed to scan it just to prove something :wink:
You got any idea of thermodynamic cycles? I could give you some of the examples we get lately (choose from Carnot, Joule, Otto or Diesel :mrgreen: )
Isn't that more engineering? :50 Thermodynamics would be taught in physics at A level if it's taught at all. All I have been taught in physics so far is some mechanics (which I already new from maths, so it was a few weeks of doing nothing in lesson :D), some electronics (boring), quantum theory and some wave theory.

The only practical things we do in maths is mechanics which is just movement of objects and reactions (tensions, compressions and objects colliding with each other etc...). The rest is just boring pure maths.
Author:  Marmelada [ 26 Mar 2009, 23:30 ]
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If psychostats uses elo then it must be the right description.
Chess uses elo it's a lot more complicated then tf2 :ugly:.
Any chess players around? My previous obsession was chess, I'd kick your collective asses at chess! Unlike the previous part of my post, the last part is serious, I'm a kick ass chess player!
So? Have I managed to get myself an adversary?
Author:  [SpA]Migu [ 26 Mar 2009, 23:52 ]
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
some electronics (boring)
This made me sad young man. :cry:
Electrical engineering ftw! 8)
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 27 Mar 2009, 00:03 ]
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Marmelada wrote:
If psychostats uses elo then it must be the right description.
Chess uses elo it's a lot more complicated then tf2 :ugly:.
Any chess players around? My previous obsession was chess, I'd kick your collective asses at chess! Unlike the previous part of my post, the last part is serious, I'm a kick ass chess player!
So? Have I managed to get myself an adversary?
What description are we talking about here? :|
Author:  [SpA]demm [ 27 Mar 2009, 07:36 ]
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Marmelada wrote:
Chess uses elo it's a lot more complicated then tf2 :ugly:
You are completely wrong.
Though you might not need to think as much playing tf2 compared to playing chess, TF2 is a lot more complicated than chess. In chess you have a very limited set of moves and a very simple goal. TF2 has much more freedom and there are a lot more possible moves than in chess.

Also the ELO system in chess is used in a 1on1 basis. This system could also work for example in open divisions of TF2 where you have clans competing 1on1 at a time.
But for public TF2, where you have 13on13 simultaniously, the ELO system just sucks.
Author:  Marmelada [ 27 Mar 2009, 09:30 ]
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
What description are we talking about here? :|
Description, decision, for a drunken post it's quite readable.
I wasn't serious about chess being more complicated hence the smiley and the part of the post where I say I wasn't serious.
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 27 Mar 2009, 14:59 ]
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Marmelada wrote:
[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
What description are we talking about here? :|
Description, decision, for a drunken post it's quite readable.
I wasn't serious about chess being more complicated hence the smiley and the part of the post where I say I wasn't serious.
:ugly:
Author:  [SpA]cookye [ 27 Mar 2009, 18:38 ]
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