The average mason after the changes:

Supop to op- :

ooo I'd love to know how the stat thing works, but keeping it a secret is essential I guess.

Yeahh we'll all back to guests again, not sure where my stats are gonna place me, or if I'm still op anyway, but meh I can live with either to be honest. I'm growing to feel more optimistic to the big rank changes now. I like current/old ranks, but I'm not gonna miss the constant creeching for promotions.

lol smokey X]

If we are all back to guest, and we have the needed things for being promoted, we will be auto-promoted

The stats get reseted i think...
If not.. if got 14 kicks 0.o

so do i
gardener

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practise makes perfect
why practise, nobodys perfect
except me
i'm purr-fect

"quote" Kirshi Yiff? YAY!

How many of those are from me I wonder?

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"Um ... I'm just wondering if it's okay if I hold you down against your will for a little bit?"

8. exactly 8 kicks from Filler -.-" dude I hate u

No OP for you =D

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"Um ... I'm just wondering if it's okay if I hold you down against your will for a little bit?"

It's up.

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Youtube Channel

I'm a guest

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Everyone, except SupOp+ is.

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I'm new. Or Old. Either way, I'm too awesome for a sig right now.

Yeah, True!

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When are ops, and people like pete who are guest still lol, getting reinstated or picked?

Or does not all of the ops fall under the new op criteria?

Once the kick counter gets sorted out all should be well.

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[SpA]Saint K.: I need some help trying to reproduce a crash
[SpA]Saint K.: would u mind joining me ?

Well, it looks like its time for me to join teh forums! anyway, i like the new ranks.. this way, in the long run people will enjoy the server more

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All hell has broken loose on chat....
I feel for you lim having to put up with all this after a major change

Just wait for when the real guests join... now its just the "mature" playerbase on the chat.

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"Um ... I'm just wondering if it's okay if I hold you down against your will for a little bit?"

I like the new system. Mainly the auto-promote stuff. A lot of the fighting on the server stemmed from manual promotions, so we shouldn't see that anymore.

I'm just glad I dont have to check out shitty builds anymore.

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"Um ... I'm just wondering if it's okay if I hold you down against your will for a little bit?"

when do we get our ranks back?



edit: me to filler

Just call down cman, give it a day until all the kinks are worked out.

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"Um ... I'm just wondering if it's okay if I hold you down against your will for a little bit?"

I liked reviewing builds, the enjoyment of it was somewhat tarnished by people begging for reviews, and making very poor efforts towards their promotions. People do need to chill, everyones going to be sorted out eventually, given the propper rank etc.

btw, fingers are crossed for operator rank, how exciting :]

First off I love the new veteran simply because I have a larger draw limit and /hide. Those 2 things were probably the only reason I would of wanted to be promoed anyways.

Second off, it doesn't matter which stat you track, it can be abused. Messages sent? Wait til there are no people of a certain class on, spam messages to that class.
Blocks placed/deleted? Macros could do it at superhuman speeds until you press a key to stop it.
Ratio of placed/deleted? Currently /paint will count as a placed, but wont change the position of a block. Spammable.
Time on server? Leave it on overnight.
Add an auto-kick on 30 mins idle? Make a macro that presses q then e every 10 minutes until stopped.

The best stat to track, therefore, would be kicks/bans. However, if that was widely known, it would cause a lot less /freeze "Explain yourself" and more /kick <name> griefing. Hence you all not telling us which stat we're using.

However, none of these i care about, because now i can build cooler things with a bigger draw limit! Great change.

If I was mason before, is it correct that I am a member?

How did I know massive mods would start crying because they loast their ranks... Oh well, looks neat for now!

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<+Thaw111> although im shit at speeling
<+Thaw111> type
<+Thaw111> gtypo
<+Thaw111> typo
<+Thaw111> shit

OK - here's the deal.

1. There are NO more promotions to member/veteran. It's all automatic. Some retarded joke-kicks also messed up the auto-promotions since they also count kicks - I can reset them manually but ANYBODY doing kicks for fun now, will be demoted IMMEDIATELY. No warning, no appeal, nothing, deal with it. On our TF2 servers we strip admin rights even from SpA members if they do something like that.

2. You can't get OP without a forum account. AND if you currently don't qualify for veteran don't even think about getting OP back. I will decide to re-promote some older OPs on a case-to-case basis, providing they have forum accounts and posted here.

Ah, also, if you have been on the forum longer and lost your rank, post here. A simple post - I have lots of work now with the system so any kind massive bitching, trolling or crying to get ranks will result in NOT getting ranks.

That is all for now.

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War does not determine who is right - only who is left. - Bertrand Russell

My only concern right now is members having the hide ability. Reason being this. Most of the time, when a person shouts that they are being griefed, they name their attacker. This allows Ops+ to step in and address the attacker quickly and easily. With members now having hide, if they decide to grief, guests wouldn't be able to name them.

I keep trying to think why members would need hide in the first place.

They can kick now. But OK. Even though the requirements for member are actually quite sound and they shouldn't be able to slip through their ranks. But alas... I'll think about it.

Also - if you have NOT been repromoted to member/veteran, post here - it's most likely due to kicks. DO NOT post if you simply were like architect and are now member etc. - ONLY when you are guest.

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War does not determine who is right - only who is left. - Bertrand Russell

nevermind