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Author:  [SpA]Toresson [ 12 Jan 2011, 13:59 ]
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Killing Floor, NWN2 and Worms Reloaded from time to time.
Author:  annarack [ 15 Jan 2011, 11:34 ]
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TF2
L4D 1 & 2
Lego Batman
Might start playing Killing Floor again :5:
Author:  [SpA]MrOrange [ 15 Jan 2011, 12:46 ]
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[SpA]Hafnium wrote:
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Goddamn elephants.

Because of Dwarf Fortress, I chuckle whenever someone mentions how steep other games' learning curves are. The ASCII isn't even the major issue.
Haha, man did I love that game! As soon as I no longer have to concentrate on my studies I'm totally going to reinstall it. :D
I prefer to play it with a texture pack, though. I guess I'm just not hardcore enough.
Have there been any patches in the last 6 months? I liked the idea of a militia but it was just too buggy to be executed just the way I wanted it to.
What also pissed me off was craftsmen who got moody and asked for stuff I had no way of obtaining. I just let them go mad, go to their room and then lock them up and starve them.
That'll teach 'em.
Author:  [SpA]Bucky [ 15 Jan 2011, 12:55 ]
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If they graphically pimp the game and/or make it multiplayer, I'm gonna play the game and smoke a forest!
Author:  DrMcMoist [ 15 Jan 2011, 12:58 ]
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I've actually went back to play Fallout 3 again. Decided to play as a melee only character to make things interesting, so I'm running around decapitating Raiders with a sledgehammer. It's a bit of a giggle.
Author:  [SpA]MrOrange [ 15 Jan 2011, 13:25 ]
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Dwarf Fortress: I think multiplayer would change the gameplay a lot in a way that I don't think would be good. It would focus a lot on the military aspect which is the most buggy and least interesting part of the gameplay. It's really about managing your 'fortress' and making sure your dwarves thrive. The sheer amount of detail is astonishing. Every character has its own personality, there are so many minerals and ores to mine and there's just so many ways to do so many things. There isn't any learning curve though. It's more of a learning vertical line, but once you've grasped the basics you'll find it's one of the best free games out there.

Fallout 3 (/New Vegas): Melee and unarmed is the way to go!
Getting those amazing kills with your fists or some ridiculously oversized hammer is the most satisfactory way of dealing with your foes.
Author:  DrMcMoist [ 15 Jan 2011, 13:40 ]
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Yeah, my best game ever of Oblivion was playing as an Orc who ran around punching everybody to death. Unfortunately, the way enemies level with you in Oblivion always made it feel a little pointless. Really hated that leveling system.

No such fuss with Fallout though, as I can bust into a Raider hideout and absolutely annihilate them with my trusty sledge. :5:
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 15 Jan 2011, 15:13 ]
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There were some mods which made Oblivion way better in terms of random encounters and the feeling that you actually were getting more powerful (i.e mobs didn't scale to you're ability, but you could meet bandits in high tier armour/weapons from level 1 and get bum raped), better combat systems where you can target areas of the body etc... Also higher resolution textures and weather system mods were nice.

Problem was it was a real faff to get it all working together without conflicts causing bugs in game.
Author:  Ollieboy [ 15 Jan 2011, 15:16 ]
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And it was also really annoying if you got it ages ago when your PC was a pile of shit and bought it for Xbox 360 :(
Author:  [SpA]Repel [ 15 Jan 2011, 15:52 ]
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Mount and Blade Warband, Killing Floor and Team Fortress 2. Also got Black ops MP installed but have only played it like twice.
Author:  Hafnium [ 15 Jan 2011, 16:15 ]
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Oblivion on a console would be a nightmare. Why would you even...?
Author:  [SpA]cardboard [ 15 Jan 2011, 17:30 ]
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Morrowind was vastly superior to Oblivion.

I was upset when Oblivion sold so well as I assumed that would be the format to which they made all their games and The Elder Scrolls would go into decline rather than recover from a misstep which Oblivion was.

Then they made Fallout3.

Thank god for Dragon Age and Mass Effect otherwise we'd all be talking about the RPG being dead.
Author:  [SpA]Relentless [ 15 Jan 2011, 17:49 ]
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I recently got myself Altitude and it's great fun. Only thing that annoys me a lot is that you have to unlock the other/good planes/perks CoD-style (can take quite some time).
Author:  Greasy_greabo [ 15 Jan 2011, 18:13 ]
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Oblivion was indeed a pile of simplistic trash which made me want to strangle myself

Morrowind ate about 6 months of my life with its actual ability to be amazing.

Fallout was once again just tiresome after the initial "ooo I can shoot this fool"

Mass effect/Dragon Age however, was the worst thing I have ever played. Then again I hated the combat and party system.

RPGs are dead tbh.
Author:  [SpA]Bucky [ 15 Jan 2011, 18:24 ]
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Propper RPGs have always been about ppl getting together to be actually role playing, like AD&D. The stuff that got out on computers was always highly limited.
Author:  Greasy_greabo [ 15 Jan 2011, 18:27 ]
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To my eternal shame I used to do a d20 starwars Roleplay with a bunch of friends every weekend for like 6 months.

It was so much fun :mrgreen:
Author:  DrMcMoist [ 15 Jan 2011, 21:24 ]
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Why do you people always have to turn everything into a 'Oh, everything is shit now, I remember when...' style conversation?

I liked Oblivion, and I like Fallout.

Now suck my dick. :50
Author:  [SpA]Revenge [ 15 Jan 2011, 21:29 ]
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I cant wait for portal 2 tbh, but until then i think i should get l4d2 if any1 would play?
Author:  [SpA]cardboard [ 15 Jan 2011, 21:30 ]
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Name the place... but it wont be like it was back when I was in Japan... a cock in my mouth with that scenery, those were the days.
Author:  DrMcMoist [ 15 Jan 2011, 22:03 ]
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I love you Cardboard. :26
Author:  [SpA]Revenge [ 15 Jan 2011, 22:25 ]
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[SpA]DrMcMoist wrote:
I love you Cardboard. :26

I feel betrayed...
Author:  DrMcMoist [ 15 Jan 2011, 22:26 ]
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Was it your dick he was sucking in Japan? :shock:
Author:  [SpA]Revenge [ 15 Jan 2011, 22:28 ]
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Lets just say fish and rice weren't the only things rolled up in seaweed...
Author:  Hafnium [ 15 Jan 2011, 23:23 ]
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<3 you guys.

Anyway, I couldn't stand dragon age either, and mass effect? You call that an RPG?

RPGs aren't dead, they just aren't making any good ones right now. The mainstream game developers are catering to the new generation of gamers that are just looking for quick and easy. You have to delve into indie games for real innovation and depth. Dwarf Fortress is just an example. I'll take a well written infocom IS over this Mass Effect bullshit. The issue is, quick and easy sells REALLY well. I don't know how this stuff is received wherever you all are, but all I hear from peers is how much fun Black Ops is.

I look forward to portal 2 because portal's gameplay and dark humor are unique, potentially challenging, and genuinely funny. Of course, portal's design process wasn't really standard fare.

Go play some nethack or something.
Author:  [SpA]cardboard [ 15 Jan 2011, 23:52 ]
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[SpA]Hafnium wrote:
<3 you guys.

Anyway, I couldn't stand dragon age either, and mass effect? You call that an RPG?

RPGs aren't dead, they just aren't making any good ones right now. The mainstream game developers are catering to the new generation of gamers that are just looking for quick and easy. You have to delve into indie games for real innovation and depth. Dwarf Fortress is just an example. I'll take a well written infocom IS over this Mass Effect bullshit. The issue is, quick and easy sells REALLY well. I don't know how this stuff is received wherever you all are, but all I hear from peers is how much fun Black Ops is.

I look forward to portal 2 because portal's gameplay and dark humor are unique, potentially challenging, and genuinely funny. Of course, portal's design process wasn't really standard fare.

Go play some nethack or something.
OK I'll do this once.

Dragon Age and Mass Effect are first and foremost wonderfully well written and allow for character development within the universe the games inhabit... which is the very definition or role-play. Its the writing I adore it works as allegory and metaphor it also takes great lessons from the rules of semiotics and the world responds to the choices made yet never once did the writing convey anything that wasn't believable. While it may not interest anyone else to find people re-writing the rules of game narative excites me a lot.

I wasn't overly happy about some of the decisions made in the gameplay but they never distracted from the tales. I think your enjoyment of the games depends entirely on what you play games for.

Innovation doesn't begin and end in the indie market, and frankly the indie market is often nothing more than a game mechanics showcase. Game mechanics as the focal point of a game creates nothing but problems in the future of a genre for instance, I've still never got past the idea that Role Playing Games have to have stats to be declared RPG's its like people cant understand the definition of the words.
Author:  Hafnium [ 16 Jan 2011, 07:52 ]
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Oh, I wasn't challenging the fact that dragon age origins is an RPG, I just didn't enjoy the game. I knew we were going to have a bad relationship the second it put me in control of two elves and had me pointing and clicking my way through a top down dungeon.

Mass Effect allows for some character development, true, but it has more in common with a shooter than a classic RPG. Sure, it has the renegade thing, but simply deciding if your character is a goody two shoes or an asshole isn't really role-playing. It's part of it, sure, but the fact that the game has that much more audio doesn't really draw me in. I only felt that I was playing anything remotely like an RPG when dialogue choices came up anyway, hence the comparison to the IS.

I'm not saying that mainstream developers are incapable of writing good games. I just find that the indie games we're seeing now are more unique and engaging. To each his own, I suppose. When it comes to RPGs, there really is no substitute for a tabletop game with a good human GM adapting to your choices. When you flesh out a character with your own back story, motivation, style, etc, its much more rewarding than deciding between "No" and "Hell no" could ever be.
Author:  [SpA]Revenge [ 16 Jan 2011, 10:25 ]
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I like diablo :)
Author:  Ollieboy [ 16 Jan 2011, 11:26 ]
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I very much so agree with you there Haf.

While I'm not QUITE as old school as you were, or as faithful to Indie as you, I do notice the decline in RPG. Dragon Age was boring as dick, and I don't like RPG's with guns because no matter which one I play, it seems like it is aimed at someone younger. Fallout doesn't seem like an RPG anymore than it does a glorified FPS.

Edit: A notable example of the succumbing to a simpler audience was seen in the Fable series, which I remembered because I just saw Fable 3 on my desk. I did notice the lesser and lesser RPG feel over the series, however I did thoroughly enjoy 1 and 3, with 2 being a pile of shit. Either way, it's not ALWAYS a horrible thing.
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 16 Jan 2011, 13:50 ]
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I loved Dragon Age, I really liked the gameplay. I guess I am the opposite to you guys, I tend to get bored of indie games after a short period, can't pin point why though. I have bought both the humble bumble packs and various other packs off steam, but they never keep me entertained very long.
Author:  ProtectMyBalls [ 16 Jan 2011, 13:55 ]
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I'm still free roaming in Red Dead, but i'm gonna start Undead Nightmare in a few minutes.
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