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Author:  xrs [ 04 Sep 2009, 22:11 ]
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[SpA]ProtectMyBalls wrote:
[SpA]cardboard wrote:

Oh and the halo's make you much easier to see, especially as spies. Fail.
agreed
Thats just as well then, you need all the help you can get balls. ;)
Author:  ProtectMyBalls [ 05 Sep 2009, 00:28 ]
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BTW can i have some of my arrows back please :P
Author:  xrs [ 05 Sep 2009, 13:40 ]
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yes sir, they're in my head :(
Author:  [SpA]9mmNL [ 06 Sep 2009, 11:39 ]
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lol nice poll :D
I used the idler, and I quit using it after Valve started taking actions. Perhaps they like me know because I received the Ushanka for the heavy yesterday on SPA #2 :)
Author:  Marmot [ 06 Sep 2009, 11:48 ]
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Fortunately, I get back all weapons I lost after using idler. But still, I'm gonna miss my brigade helmet. I don't play pyro, but it looks very cool :p .
Author:  Beserker [ 06 Sep 2009, 13:11 ]
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Hopefully this hasn't been already posted:
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Author:  Mint [ 06 Sep 2009, 18:17 ]
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I just wanted to post something here, tremoved the persons name so I don't hang him.
I just find his statements very common amongst those who used the THIRD PARTY program so that they could get items easier
Quote:
18:01 - [Dirty Idler]-: >Cheat
18:01 - [Dirty Idler]-: Haha
18:01 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: there's nothing to be proud of mate
18:01 - [Dirty Idler]-: Like i am
18:02 - [Dirty Idler]-: Hahaha
18:03 - [Dirty Idler]-: And you are proud of?
18:03 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: well since people add [Dirty Idler] to their nicknames they must be
18:04 - [Dirty Idler]-: No
18:04 - [Dirty Idler]-: They are just astonished about the fact that the 'cheated'
18:04 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: what are there to be surprised by?
18:04 - [Dirty Idler]-: Like it's cheating
18:04 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: the rules clearly says that ANY use of THIRD PARTY program to gain an advantage is cheating
18:05 - [Dirty Idler]-: If you just read the blog post
18:05 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: I have
18:05 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: it's fucking whiners and wankers
18:05 - [Dirty Idler]-: And what are you? A whiner of a wanker?
18:06 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: none of those obviously, since I didn't cheat the system
18:07 - [Dirty Idler]-: So you really, REALLY think it's cheating?
18:07 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: ys
18:07 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: yes
18:08 - [Dirty Idler]-: Okay then
18:08 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: but I don't care much about it
18:08 - [Dirty Idler]-: You do
18:08 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: it's more the fact that people can't understand WHY they are getting punished
18:08 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: they think they've RIGHTFULLY DESERVED the items by exploiting
18:08 - [Dirty Idler]-: Hahaha
18:09 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: I don't get why people are proud of getting idiots
18:09 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: I think that's the suma sumarum
18:09 - [Dirty Idler]-: But people aren't proud of it
18:10 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: then why are they adding [Dirty Idler] to their names?
18:10 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: obviously they want people to see that they've been exploiting
18:10 - [Dirty Idler]-: People already see that
18:10 - [Dirty Idler]-: They do that to make fun of valve's U R CHEETOR blabber
18:11 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: so you don't see their point?
18:11 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: you really don't understand why you were cheating?
18:11 - [Dirty Idler]-: IT ISN'T CHEATING FOR HAT'S SAKE
18:12 - [SpA]Mintylicous!: yepp, point made, touché
I just don't understand why it suddenly have become "cool" that you're cheating.
Author:  [SpA]Relentless [ 06 Sep 2009, 18:24 ]
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It isn't cheating for hat's sake :63
Author:  DrMcMoist [ 06 Sep 2009, 18:38 ]
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This is retarded.

Do people wearing the hats that they Idled for gain an advantage in the game? Do they get more crits? Can they run faster? Can they fly? Can they bend TIME and SPACE to suit their own selfish needs!?

No. So it's not cheating. It's just a hat. Valve are a bunch of retards, and really should have given prior warning that this would happen if people continued to use Drunken F00l's program. As it stands, I think they've made themselves look like a bunch of petty wankers.

And what is it with people who got a Halo taking the moral high ground? I mean, honestly, does anybody else find this as hilarious as me? This isn't the afterlife;

'Oh, I see you didn't get a Halo'
'Yeah I um... Was involved in a hit and run once when I was alive. It took me a couple of days to confess so apparently that means I don't qualify for a Halo'
'Hmmm'
'What?'
'Huh?'
'What do you mean by hmmmm?'
'Oh nothing... Well all I'm saying is, maybe you should have owned up straight away'
'Yeah I'm aware of that fact thanks'
'Cause you didn't get a Halo'
'I know I didn't get a Halo...'
'Yeah. Maybe should have owned up'
'Shut the hell up! Condescending dick!'
'Jees. You don't do yourself any favours do you? I'm surprised they even let you up here. I think you should consider yourself lucky the punishment wasn't more severe'
'It's not like the guy died'
'Well if he did, I bet he'd have a Halo. Murdered by a monster like you. That would qualify him straight away'
'How would you know?'
'Me and God. We're in sync. We're real tight. They don't hand Halo's out to just anybody you know. As you can plainly see'
'...'
Author:  Mint [ 06 Sep 2009, 18:46 ]
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my point was at least in my mind, very clear, I don't understand why people CAN'T UNDERSTAND why they get "punished", heck they didn't even get punished, what did they loose? nothing.

and the fact that they are PROUD of EXPLOITING the program, I see so many people having the stupid "I'm a dirty idler" tag, or similiar stuff. since when did exploiting become cool? it was pretty obvious that this was never INTENDED "gameplay" and as Lim-Dul pointed out, had this been any other game with any other developer, they would have gotten a permaban for exploiting
Author:  Murk [ 06 Sep 2009, 18:50 ]
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http://www.teamfortress.com/
Quote:
Over the next few days we'll be removing all TF2 items that were earned using external idling applications. We're going to adopt a zero tolerance policy for external applications used to manipulate the persistent item system. Due to us not having a policy in place prior to today, this time we're only removing the items earned through cheating the system. Going forward, if we find users using external applications, we'll remove all of their items. If you're interested, only about 4.5% of the players in TF2's community will be affected by this cleansing process.

Meanwhile, everyone who took the moral high road will soon be finding a new hat in their inventory. We've also significantly increased the chance of finding any of the existing hats.

We realize there is a high level of demand for items, and we're still working on systems to allow you to find them in new ways (via Trading, and crafting duplicates into desired items). However, we need to draw the line at running external applications.
Now before this thread gets completely shitted up: Since you're not running the game (even if minimized), but only the idler, it counts as cheating the system. Also you are wrong. If you were right this wouldn't happen.

If you're in doubt what to discuss in this thread, read to OP.
Author:  DrMcMoist [ 06 Sep 2009, 18:54 ]
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[SpA]Mint wrote:
my point was at least in my mind, very clear, I don't understand why people CAN'T UNDERSTAND why they get "punished", heck they didn't even get punished, what did they loose? nothing.
Yes. Valve has truly shown us all, the error of our ways.

Now if everybody could turn to Passage 12 of the 'New Bible of Newell', and reprise the Hymn, 'Oh Praise Thee Steam Network'.
Author:  [SpA]Spikespiegel [ 10 Sep 2009, 12:35 ]
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Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 10 Sep 2009, 13:02 ]
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A good 4.5% idlers on this poll... Oh wait no that's 45%
Author:  DrMcMoist [ 10 Sep 2009, 14:02 ]
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I feel sorry for Tim Buckley, the guy who makes Ctrl + Alt + Delete. He goes to all that effort to make that comic and yet he's about as funny as an outbreak of herpes.
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