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Author:  blampen [ 19 Oct 2010, 01:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
InTheGlory wrote:
My only concern right now is members having the hide ability. Reason being this. Most of the time, when a person shouts that they are being griefed, they name their attacker. This allows Ops+ to step in and address the attacker quickly and easily. With members now having hide, if they decide to grief, guests wouldn't be able to name them.

I keep trying to think why members would need hide in the first place.

I was thinking the same thing
Author:  Lim-Dul [ 19 Oct 2010, 01:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
Changed on next restart. =)
Author:  Astelyn [ 19 Oct 2010, 02:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
Hello all,

As a former-Op, I suppose I'm supposed to post in this thread :) It wasn't long ago that I joined the forums, but the day that I did join, I wrote up an in-depth guide targeted at Builders on how to use their new commands, located here: http://forum.specialattack.net/viewtopi ... =97&t=8214. I will be editing this soon to be targeted towards the new Member rank.

In addition, I have been online in-game every day since I joined on September 13, 2010, and I've got 215 hours at the time of this post. I spend most of my time on the server moderating and helping out, with an occasional Pixel Art project here and there. I was promoted to Op by Kirshi not long before the rank system change with the reason "Nice, helps around the server, good attitude."

If there's anything else I should add, please let me know :) Thank you.
Author:  Smokeybacon [ 19 Oct 2010, 02:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
Hey everyone, i'm an ex-op too, if only for a few days before the changeover (promoted by j_Mon5, reason I cannot remember). approaching 200 hours now, I was moderator for over 2 weeks so I got the jist of things in that time. My portfolio is not as glamorous as Astelyn's I'm afraid! I just build whatever random thing comes to mind, usually warships and aircraft because i'm a nerd like that.

But those logistics aside, i'd like to thank Lim, Fragmer and SaintK for all working to make this change, I reckon it'll mean a much better structured server and soon we'll be the envy of team9000 and the rest! :4

And a question: are all ranks now subject to an auto kick for being afk? If not then couldn't people just stay on the server afk to accumulate hours and somewhat cheat the system maybe?
Author:  PetePorty [ 19 Oct 2010, 02:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
Who said hours have anything to do with being promoted?
Author:  Lord_Sniper [ 19 Oct 2010, 11:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
from the perspective of a mason->member i like the update.

apart from losing freeze, nothing really changed for me, and i think the whole athmosphere will become way more friendly and creative, because everyone can from now on just build for the sake of building. no more tons of people asking for review, no more dependency on special person`s points of view (at least this is kind of art, and thats alsways a subjective thing), i am eager to see the development on the server, because that is why i originally joined: just build something. i then heard of promotions, tried to be promoted and then, when it happened i first didnt know what to do with new abilities ;)

so i guess the new way also ensures that new players kind of get new tools when they are ready to use them (cut 50 trees with a handsaw to understand how its done before you get the chainsaw for example)

the balancing of abilities is ok i think, but i dont think members need the patrol, it`s enough to be able to kick as a self-defence, without freeze a patrol doesnt make sense. as mason i often patrolled when i didnt want to build, before i saw the use of freeze, i kicked appox. 45 ppl., after realising its power only 16 until now. so my opinion would be "tie" freeze and patrol and leave it to the veterans to clean up 8)
Author:  SomethingAmazing [ 19 Oct 2010, 12:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
PetePorty wrote:
Who said hours have anything to do with being promoted?
Umm....only LIM_DUL. :roll:

Also, to all of the people who are suggesting things, im sure its fine but i dont think Lim is really "taking suggestions" However, i could be wrong
Author:  [SpA]JuncoPartner [ 19 Oct 2010, 13:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
This is all looking good so far, but I'm abit bugged about the hide ability, someones gotta have it. I'd rather no one did, but without it, it would be difficult catching the stealthy griefers, so yeah ops+ are pretty responsible. I just don't like the idea of members and vets having it. They might use it to tease or stalk their lower ranks.

I think Lim_dul's just said, members wont be using it, so I think if veterans are going to use it, they need to know it's not doss around command, and that it's one that should be used for grief prevention only.

Anyway, my thanks goes to the holy trinity, for the great work they've done, and how they've, most probably, saved the the servers ass. Ta very much!


R.I.P Mod Squad 4/10/2010 - 19/10/2010 Griefer kickin', and awesome winnin' :p
Author:  FillerB [ 19 Oct 2010, 13:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
Which trinity? Lim-Dul, Fragmer and ???

But you are right:
R.I.P Mod Squad 4/10/2010 - 19/10/2010 Griefer kickin', and doing my job for me.
Author:  Smokeybacon [ 19 Oct 2010, 14:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
SomethingAmazing wrote:
Also, to all of the people who are suggesting things, im sure its fine but i dont think Lim is really "taking suggestions" However, i could be wrong
Lim noted this in the annoucement:
[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
Notes: Some old OPs that have already been active on the forums can request their rank to be re-considered. I don't want to waste time to check the old PlayerDB vs forum accounts, so that's a way of letting me know. =)
So I hope I did it the right way! :mrgreen:
Author:  Moe_lester [ 19 Oct 2010, 16:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
ive been told that if u werent online when they changed the ranks u would lose it or something...
srry but WTF really?? why for godsake? how does that help anyone? so can PLZ get op too? :?
Author:  Smokeybacon [ 19 Oct 2010, 16:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
Moe_lester wrote:
why for godsake? how does that help anyone?
...because it shows that you are committed and loyal to the servers maybe? And that you know about all the recent and current developments in the running of the server? Really how hard is it to work that out.
Author:  Lim-Dul [ 19 Oct 2010, 17:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
FillerB wrote:
Which trinity? Lim-Dul, Fragmer and ???

But you are right:
R.I.P Mod Squad 4/10/2010 - 19/10/2010 Griefer kickin', and doing my job for me.
And SaintK - there are legends circulating about each one of us on the servers - people don't really know who does what and that is quite hilarious. ^^
Quote:
ive been told that if u werent online when they changed the ranks u would lose it or something...
srry but WTF really?? why for godsake? how does that help anyone? so can PLZ get op too?
Autorank works regardless of online status and with that attitude you're not getting OP any time soon.
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 19 Oct 2010, 17:15 ]
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I do nuthin
Author:  Kirshi [ 19 Oct 2010, 21:58 ]
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
I do nuthin
Pft! You do things!
Like... Stuff. And...
...
Stuff.
...
:4
Author:  [SpA]gibboss28 [ 19 Oct 2010, 21:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
[SpA]SaintK wrote:
I do nuthin
That's not true, you get stoned. That's good enough I'd say.
Author:  PetePorty [ 19 Oct 2010, 22:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
You always help me with TF2 shit.
Author:  Lim-Dul [ 20 Oct 2010, 00:07 ]
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
I do nuthin
That's not true - YOU BREAK STUFF! ;-)
Author:  fragmer [ 20 Oct 2010, 01:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
A note about the hide ability:
  • Hidden members can still be seen by veterans, ops, supops, trustrees/trustesses, and owners
  • Hidden veterans can still be seen by ops, supops, trustrees/trustesses, and owners
  • Hidden ops can still be seen by supops, trustrees/trustesses, and owners
  • Hidden supops can still be seen by trustrees/trustesses and owners
  • Hidden trustrees/trustesses can still be seen by owners
Don't panic, hidden lower-ranked players can still be checked on.
Author:  InTheGlory [ 20 Oct 2010, 02:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
Makes sense, but why would members need hide to begin with? There have been a couple of member griefers so far, and if guests aren't able to name them (due to being hidden), it could make things tricky. It helps a lot when guests can name their attacker.
Author:  SomethingAmazing [ 20 Oct 2010, 04:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
Hide-Should be op+ but whatever...defietly shouldnt be member, unless the rules of it have changed you cannot tp to someone who is hidden....

Smokeybacon and Moe_lester-Dont hink you should get op just yet, just my opinion (maybe smokey...MAYBE)

Fragmer, Lim_Dul, SaintK-doesnt fragmer make something called...fucraft or fackcraft or somethin? :wink:
Author:  Fehzor [ 20 Oct 2010, 05:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
FillerB wrote:
Which trinity? Lim-Dul, Fragmer and ???

But you are right:
R.I.P Mod Squad 4/10/2010 - 19/10/2010 Griefer kickin', and doing my job for me.
And SaintK - there are legends circulating about each one of us on the servers - people don't really know who does what and that is quite hilarious. ^^
So.... Saint owns minecraft, all of it... Lim made TF2, and is really robin.... and Fragmer made some kind of weird TF2 plugin called tfcraft?
Author:  tassam380 [ 21 Oct 2010, 04:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
I think it is good for vets to have hide! I mean most of us were mods or higher, so we are used to the kick griefers thing. But members are like builders, no trust is involved really to get to that rank (well with buider there wasnt, you didnt really have to do a background check) and hide is a command that people needed to be trusted with. Until now reading this forum post i didnt know members had hide! I hadn't got around to /class member yet.

Cheers,
Sam
Author:  Glitch1500 [ 21 Oct 2010, 11:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
I got 1 full day of mod before this update <3
Author:  Lord_Sniper [ 21 Oct 2010, 11:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
did i miss something or are manual promos back again?

bigolpete joined today (21st) and is already member?!
Author:  tassam380 [ 21 Oct 2010, 11:22 ]
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He was manually promoted for good work.
Author:  FillerB [ 21 Oct 2010, 11:23 ]
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... oh for fuck sake.
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 21 Oct 2010, 11:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
tassam380 wrote:
He was manually promoted for good work.
Someone clearly didn't get the idea behind the new rank structure??
Author:  Ollieboy [ 21 Oct 2010, 11:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
FillerB wrote:
Which trinity? Lim-Dul, Fragmer and ???
The world famous Ollieboy, who once sailed the 7 seas to find a working Wi-fi connection to construct serveral wonders of the world.
Author:  Smokeybacon [ 21 Oct 2010, 12:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: New ranks!
SomethingAmazing wrote:
Smokeybacon and Moe_lester-Dont hink you should get op just yet, just my opinion (maybe smokey...MAYBE)
Any proper reasons? Or just because I might have pissed you off when criticizing your blaming of mods for just about everything? Or perhaps because I spoke my mind on promotions etc on multiple occasions and you might have preferred mods who just let everything thst erks them slide?
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