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I don't know how they ruin gameplay by NOT failing - is there only one right way to play each class and if you don't follow it you're somehow bad?

Anyways - we don't know if it will be single shot. Nobody said anything about headshots either.

man that Ambassador looks fockin beautiful

oh & seems like the meet the spy video leak rly had it consequences o: xD

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[SpA]Baal Kagan wrote:

man that Ambassador looks fockin beautiful

oh & seems like the meet the spy video leak rly had it consequences o: xD

http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2515

You should read the whole frontpage of teamfortress.com

Any way, we know know where the scout came from, however might the spy be the father of the scout?

oh gawd, you mean the pyro is a MILF?!?!

at least ze couts mom is for sure <3 xD

lawl. that would be so funny if the pyro rly is ze scouts mom & ze spy his daddy. lawl. <3

I am affraid, however, that this thing will encourage people who are bad at spy (and know it) to play it and mess things up a little for the team they're on.

Yet they do ruin gameplay for other spies, bartg is right. To be honest, spy is the only class who's play can be totally ruined by teammates. Scouts and pyro's in particular...

[SpA]Mr Orange wrote:

I am affraid, however, that this thing will encourage people who are bad at spy (and know it) to play it and mess things up a little for the team they're on.

You can't possibily mean that. How are you supposed to improve your gameplay if you don't actually play?

And we're probably all going to farm the achievments with some friends on empty servers anyway.

[SpA]Crovax20 wrote:

Yet they do ruin gameplay for other spies, bartg is right. To be honest, spy is the only class who's play can be totally ruined by teammates. Scouts and pyro's in particular...

Only class?! What about a soldier bumping a pyro right in your face because he can't control his hopping? Or a heavy that keeps dancing in front of your scope? Or a demo stealing your ammobox in setup time. Or a pyro that keeps blowing back people completly messing all your shots on the target. Or..and I could go on.

The spy feels griefed only because it's hard for them to wreck other people's play. And that is true, since the spy is mostly behind enemy lines. The only thing he could do is draw attention and that's always positive for the other players.

As for the scout thing, don't say stuff like you don't know how to play scout. You come from behind of you flank the enemy. You don't draw their attention face2face and hope their aim is crap. Though that would certainly put the spy trying to close up from behind at an advantage.

And we're probably all going to farm the achievments with some friends on empty servers anyway.

Yeh mate, but the examples I gave are because of bad gameplay on your team's bahalf. The scout will jump around the target and the pyro will circle it because that's their best tactic. And that isn't that bad, I mean, it does draw attention, doesn't it? Sure, it also triggers the spam but that's bad for everyone.
And ofc those actions mentioned get you gibbed. A team mate eating your rifle bullet, an engie without a lvl 2 sentry at start etc.

Oh, and scouts usually fire warning shots from afar, unless they're going to ambush that target. xD

Sebas, I suggest you go dedicate yourself to spy for a hundred hours or so

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Author:	[SpA]Minimoose! [ 19 May 2009, 23:54 ]
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I have the feeling this will make the combat spy technique very overpowered, I love playing combat spy :3

Author:	sebas [ 20 May 2009, 00:08 ]
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That's exactly what I was thinking about Lim. I too loved the railgun. Just like I loved the shotgun (ie scattergun). And yeah mini, think about getting behind enemy lines and finishing off enemies from afar. hehe. Not to mention that the new revolver looks soooo sexy. If they add a deep blast sound when a shot is fired, man o'man! btw, do the new watches replace the disguise kit?

Author:	Bartg [ 20 May 2009, 02:29 ]
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Too bad they try encourage people to play spy by adding ultra powerfull one-shot-kill weapon, I hate playing with noob spies just running around shooting stuff and generaly failing, they ruin gameplay for other spies :/

Author:	Lim-Dul [ 20 May 2009, 03:02 ]
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I don't know how they ruin gameplay by NOT failing - is there only one right way to play each class and if you don't follow it you're somehow bad? ;-) Anyways - we don't know if it will be single shot. Nobody said anything about headshots either.

Author:	Bartg [ 20 May 2009, 03:23 ]
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Someone @ steamforums already counted the caliber of a weapon by counting pixels ( damn people have nothing better to do ) .88 cal, so damage will be big probably, considering longer times between shots, but I hope no more than 100-110 dmg.

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Author:	[SpA]Johnny [ 20 May 2009, 07:03 ]
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"With its rosewood grip and likeness of your enemyâ€™s mother (please send photo) engraved on the barrel, the Ambassador is eight motherloving pounds of steel your enemies wonâ€™t want to negotiate with." So the spy gets two watches and this beauty but what about the sniper: a bow , razorback and ? or the last weapon will be revealed tomorrow whit the actual release of the update? (i wonder what it could be )

Author:	staberas [ 20 May 2009, 08:08 ]
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2morrow, snipers achievements & weapon (jarate maybe?)

Author:	Crovax20 [ 20 May 2009, 08:10 ]
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote: I don't know how they ruin gameplay by NOT failing - is there only one right way to play each class and if you don't follow it you're somehow bad? Anyways - we don't know if it will be single shot. Nobody said anything about headshots either. Yet they do ruin gameplay for other spies, bartg is right. To be honest, spy is the only class who's play can be totally ruined by teammates. Scouts and pyro's in particular... Picture someone firing that thing from the behind the enemy, what will they do? They will turn around and royally screw you the backstabbing spy as well. However I do see an interesting combo with this gun and the dead ringer.

Author:	[SpA]Baal Kagan [ 20 May 2009, 09:36 ]
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man that Ambassador looks fockin beautiful oh & seems like the meet the spy video leak rly had it consequences o: xD http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2515

Author:	[SpA]SaintK [ 20 May 2009, 09:38 ]
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[SpA]Baal Kagan wrote: man that Ambassador looks fockin beautiful oh & seems like the meet the spy video leak rly had it consequences o: xD http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2515 You should read the whole frontpage of teamfortress.com

Author:	[SpA]Baal Kagan [ 20 May 2009, 09:41 ]
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[SpA]SaintK wrote: [SpA]Baal Kagan wrote: man that Ambassador looks fockin beautiful oh & seems like the meet the spy video leak rly had it consequences o: xD http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2515 You should read the whole frontpage of teamfortress.com i already did when u posted it but pssssst~ O:

Author:	[SpA]Baal Kagan [ 20 May 2009, 10:56 ]
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looooooooooooooooooooooooool they are speculatin in ze steamforums that the woman engraved in ze Ambassador is ze pyro aka ze scouts mom XDDDD oh man if zat is ze truth i'll cut mah balls off... (pls don't let it be true xD)

Author:	DoubleJ [ 20 May 2009, 12:01 ]
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The woman on the gun shows many similarities with the one on the photo's within the meet the Spy video. Any way, we know know where the scout came from, however might the spy be the father of the scout?

Author:	sebas [ 20 May 2009, 12:08 ]
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oh gawd, you mean the pyro is a MILF?!?!

Author:	DoubleJ [ 21 May 2009, 00:46 ]
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Apart from the new guns, it looks like they are great fans of James Bond over there at Valve: Quote: Dr. Nooooo On Her Majesty's Secret Surface The Man with the Broken Guns You Only Shiv Thrice For Your Eyes Only Die Another Way Dr. No On Her Majesty's Secret Service The Man with the Golden Gun You Only Live twice For Your Eyes Only Die Another Day

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Author:	ditch [ 20 May 2009, 12:38 ]
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DoubleJ wrote: Any way, we know know where the scout came from, however might the spy be the father of the scout? check out the "who's your daddy" spy achievement

Author:	[SpA]MrOrange [ 20 May 2009, 12:47 ]
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When I saw this unlock I could barely controle myself! In every game I love the 'hand-cannons'. I am affraid, however, that this thing will encourage people who are bad at spy (and know it) to play it and mess things up a little for the team they're on. I think I'll lay low untill the spy-craze dies down before trying to get this baby in my hands.

Author:	[SpA]Baal Kagan [ 20 May 2009, 12:50 ]
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[SpA]sebas wrote: oh gawd, you mean the pyro is a MILF?!?! at least ze couts mom is for sure <3 xD

Author:	ditch [ 20 May 2009, 12:55 ]
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[SpA]Baal Kagan wrote: at least ze couts mom is for sure <3 xD i'd say: say goodbye to your balls baal!

Author:	[SpA]Baal Kagan [ 20 May 2009, 13:04 ]
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lawl. that would be so funny if the pyro rly is ze scouts mom & ze spy his daddy. lawl. <3

Author:	ditch [ 20 May 2009, 13:12 ]
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[SpA]Baal Kagan wrote: lawl. that would be so funny if the pyro rly is ze scouts mom & ze spy his daddy. lawl. <3 note well: the spy of the opposing team

Author:	sebas [ 20 May 2009, 13:18 ]
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[SpA]Mr Orange wrote: I am affraid, however, that this thing will encourage people who are bad at spy (and know it) to play it and mess things up a little for the team they're on. You can't possibily mean that. How are you supposed to improve your gameplay if you don't actually play? And we're probably all going to farm the achievments with some friends on empty servers anyway. [SpA]Crovax20 wrote: Yet they do ruin gameplay for other spies, bartg is right. To be honest, spy is the only class who's play can be totally ruined by teammates. Scouts and pyro's in particular... Only class?! What about a soldier bumping a pyro right in your face because he can't control his hopping? Or a heavy that keeps dancing in front of your scope? Or a demo stealing your ammobox in setup time. Or a pyro that keeps blowing back people completly messing all your shots on the target. Or..and I could go on. The spy feels griefed only because it's hard for them to wreck other people's play. And that is true, since the spy is mostly behind enemy lines. The only thing he could do is draw attention and that's always positive for the other players. As for the scout thing, don't say stuff like you don't know how to play scout. You come from behind of you flank the enemy. You don't draw their attention face2face and hope their aim is crap. Though that would certainly put the spy trying to close up from behind at an advantage.

Author:	Crovax20 [ 20 May 2009, 13:46 ]
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[SpA]sebas wrote: [SpA]Mr Orange wrote: I am affraid, however, that this thing will encourage people who are bad at spy (and know it) to play it and mess things up a little for the team they're on. You can't possibily mean that. How are you supposed to improve your gameplay if you don't actually play? And we're probably all going to farm the achievments with some friends on empty servers anyway. [SpA]Crovax20 wrote: Yet they do ruin gameplay for other spies, bartg is right. To be honest, spy is the only class who's play can be totally ruined by teammates. Scouts and pyro's in particular... Only class?! What about a soldier bumping a pyro right in your face because he can't control his hopping? Or a heavy that keeps dancing in front of your scope? Or a demo stealing your ammobox in setup time. Or a pyro that keeps blowing back people completly messing all your shots on the target. Or..and I could go on. The spy feels griefed only because it's hard for them to wreck other people's play. And that is true, since the spy is mostly behind enemy lines. The only thing he could do is draw attention and that's always positive for the other players. As for the scout thing, don't say stuff like you don't know how to play scout. You come from behind of you flank the enemy. You don't draw their attention face2face and hope their aim is crap. Though that would certainly put the spy trying to close up from behind at an advantage. Pyro's and scouts tend to run circles around their target. Which really helps when you try to come up and backstab someone. The point is that on the pubs the scouts just rush by you and start firing at the enemy or they start shooting from an ineffective distance. They draw attention to the rear. Which really sucks when you could just have stabbed 3-4 people in a row. The sniper can get annoyed by somebody blocking his headshot, but he is relatively because he is standing at range. Thus he doesn't die from it. A demo stealing the ammobox won't result in a premature death either. The pyro blowbacking will actually make it a bit easier to aim at the target... sod it The thing I am trying to tell you is that other classes usually dont get gibbed when someone is getting annoying. The spy does, because the whimpy gun isn't gunna save you against the almighte bonesaw, wrench, flames, spray, splash (patiently waits till someone goes nitpick this post to point out something totally uncovered by this post)

Author:	sebas [ 20 May 2009, 14:00 ]
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Yeh mate, but the examples I gave are because of bad gameplay on your team's bahalf. The scout will jump around the target and the pyro will circle it because that's their best tactic. And that isn't that bad, I mean, it does draw attention, doesn't it? Sure, it also triggers the spam but that's bad for everyone. And ofc those actions mentioned get you gibbed. A team mate eating your rifle bullet, an engie without a lvl 2 sentry at start etc. Oh, and scouts usually fire warning shots from afar, unless they're going to ambush that target. xD

Author:	[SpA]Revenge [ 20 May 2009, 14:26 ]
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Does that mean the heavy is the uncle?

Author:	Bartg [ 20 May 2009, 14:55 ]
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Quote: And we're probably all going to farm the achievments with some friends on empty servers anyway. Me Me wanna be teh farmer And when I play spy, I hate teammates running along me, when Im trying to get behind enemy lines on cloak - It usually ends in being accidently shot or ignited by pyro and RAAAGEQUIIIT !!!1111 And I wonder how many spies will emerge after update on our servers, since I just bought class immunity for that purpose, and probably a lot others did the same

Author:	Crovax20 [ 20 May 2009, 15:27 ]
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[SpA]sebas wrote: Yeh mate, but the examples I gave are because of bad gameplay on your team's bahalf. The scout will jump around the target and the pyro will circle it because that's their best tactic. And that isn't that bad, I mean, it does draw attention, doesn't it? Sure, it also triggers the spam but that's bad for everyone. And ofc those actions mentioned get you gibbed. A team mate eating your rifle bullet, an engie without a lvl 2 sentry at start etc. Oh, and scouts usually fire warning shots from afar, unless they're going to ambush that target. xD Their best tactic would actually be. 1. See target 2. See spy 3. Wait a few seconds to let the spy take out some people 4. Try and kill remaining classes while they try to kill the spy or find some other targets Its safer for them and the spy. Yet everyone wants to be a gloryhog so they run in guns ablaze and don't even think about how much damage their teammate could have done if they had waited a few seconds. Sebas, I suggest you go dedicate yourself to spy for a hundred hours or so

Author:	Bartg [ 20 May 2009, 16:27 ]
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Quote: Sebas, I suggest you go dedicate yourself to spy for a hundred hours or so True, Spy ( along with airblasting people ) can provide such hilarious moments, that no other class can even come close

Author:	saifon [ 21 May 2009, 01:30 ]
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Author:	[SpA]Spikespiegel [ 21 May 2009, 01:51 ]
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