If you're gonna pay for junk, you better get a mac.

Current setup: http://s356.photobucket.com/home/aeoncleanse
6 Pictures there of what I'm using.

Once I'm in Canada in 2 months, having sold this system, I am building a new one, approximate spending including peripherals should be around $2000, and will feature the new AMD Bulldozer-architecture Octo-core processor. But what case? Corsair Obsidian 800D, Corsair Graphite 600T, NZXT Phantom Black, or... something else. High end, and not Antec. Any ideas people?

http://www.guru3d.com/news/leaked-slide ... rformance/
LOL

Heh, slide is fake. Released in May this year when everyone was just speculating blindly, and the performance gap between the i7 2600k and Phenom II 1100T is backwards (The i7 is much faster than the Phenom in the majority of tests). The Llano performance is more accurate, which would make sense as companies actually HAD Llano cores with release stepping in May.

As far as I am aware, the only Bulldozer CPU they could have had back in May was the first stepping, which was only sent to 4 companies, none of which were the one named on those slides. The release versions should be one hell of a lot faster, and the sheer theory behind the new architecture looks like it might kill the Core architecture.

I'm not going to be stupid though... I will wait a few weeks after release, and if the Bulldozers don't do what I'm expecting, I will be getting an i7... I think AMD will surprise the industry again though. They have precedence after all (Athlon-64).

Well, we just have to wait and see. There's still the point that production models of Bulldozer are 3 steppings advanced from what the slide's creators could POSSIBLY have tested, for the reason AMD themselves have stated as 'The performance was not good enough', and the fact that that slide was not talked about much after a week. Lots of slide like that appear, and most are fake, so I see no reason to think it is real. I think everyone should be hoping it does well, though, otherwise Intel will have a monopoly on the CPU industry (Unless ARM come in) and then we will have to pay through the nose for all our PCs.

However, I've been following the developments very closely for the last 8 months and learning as much as I can about how CPUs work. This, and in-industry contacts (Courtesy of my Uncle) tell me that they should be very fast, at least competing with Sandy-Bridge, if not Ivy-Bridge. They *shouldn't* have all the problems of the previous generations because it is a totally new concept. Nothing like it has been tried before, and the clock speeds are high, very high compared to the last 4 years. On top of all of this, AMD have leaked that Bulldozer should be at least 50% per core aster than the last of the Phenom II range, so that along puts them right into Sandy-Bridge league. Even if they do lose the CPU war though, AMD aren't going to be declaring bankruptcy any time soon. Their Llano APUs have been exactly what was promised and are selling extremely well, they made a very healthy return last year, and they have their entire Graphics subdivision ATI to fall back onto, and in graphics they have been totally dominating the last couple of years.

You seem to be putting too much stock into the Flagship models as well, when they are only a tiny proportion of the sales. Until Sandy-Bridge came along this year, AMD had by far the best power/cost ratio, and it reflected in their sales figures, which by volume were a lot higher than Intel's. Then Sandy-Bridge kicked them in the rear...

At the end of it all, I'm a scientist, and will build with whatever turns out to be faster. I have to say, though, that you sound an awful lot like a simple Intel-Fanboi, if more clued-up than most, and last time AMD did something new an awful lot of people saying the same things as you were eating humble pie for the next four years... We have to wait and see. Which sucks :/

I've never understood windows in cases, why not just have a fan there instead.