what is your solution?

Ok, here's an idea, but not sure how hard it will be to set up, or if it will even be acceptable, but we have the "/nether" command, but YOU have to set it, (like /home) and the cool down time will be awhile, a week? Month? That way it makes it a bit easier to travel to, but I'd you want to go often it still takes some time. So to set it, you could use "/nether set" or such. You wouldn't be able to go to others nether, but still an easier way.

...what? I don't even understand your suggestion.

I think he means that once a player has walked to the Nether, they can set a warp point like /home set and use it e.g. once a week to get to the Nether by teleporting - which renders it fucking useless, might I add.

If that is what he means then...what part of "it eneds to be hard" confuses him? Seriously why is everyone playing a game called "SURVIVAL Mulitplayer" yet expects it be Hello Kitty World?

I just will never understand.

well a lot of people aren't entirely sure whether or not there is a nether fortress. Maybe a directional sign from the Bedlam boat would be helpful?

Yeah 'cos the players here have NO issue at all reading signs...

Indeed, that would require them to be able to read too - something we really can't expect from the lot of them...
How about a plugin of sort, like /help (I know that's already in use, but something similar) that'd tell 'em what to do and where to find something... Just a thought.

So they can't read a sign, can't read the rules, wont use the forum, wont use the Dynmap but they learn to use an entirely new plugin? Really?

I think you may have a different idea of "Difficulty" than the players.

To me, "Difficulty" is having the nether be a dangerous place. "Difficulty" isn't having it require a tedious, boring, 10-15 minute walk to get there...

No, my definition of difficult is the same as everyone else's. Having to walk there means you need planning. You need to set out with the right gear to ensure that you can a) deal with the nether and b) deal with the PVP/mobs on the way. Also it requires for you to have paid some attention and have set your home before you left so you can get back when you are done.

What you are saying- in a round about way - is you want it to be easy. Fighting and surviving in SMP is monumentally easy - travelling, planning and actually thinking: that's the hard stuff

But it's not hard. Seriously. I can get to the Nether Fortress with the starter kit. Wait until dawn when all the mobs die off, then head in a straight line to get there. It's not hard at all.

It's literally a boring 10-15 minute walk. You're making it seem like walking in a straight line for 10 minutes is an epic challenge. It's not. It's boring, it's un-engaging, and it's really needless. Hell, to show how non-difficult the journey is, I could get a few thousand cobble and build a bridge there, where mobs wouldn't even be able to touch you.

I have no clue how you think it's even remotely hard, unless you're being foolish and going out at night. If I had FRAPS working right, I'd record a video of it for you. It's literally walking/boating in a straight line.


The Nether Fortress itself, I like. It's a challenge and will DEFINITELY weed out the ones who can't handle it. It's the freaking billion mile walk to get there that I'm complaining about.