But where's the fun and challenge in that?
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| Author: | zelit12345 [ 10 Feb 2014, 21:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Silk spawners |
I think it would be nice if we had there something to obtain the spawners (for example using silk-touched tools). I found something like this after a little searching: http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/silkspawners/ Its updated to 1.7.2 and seems working What do you think? |
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| Author: | zXPoison [ 10 Feb 2014, 22:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
It certainly has its benefits but I cannot help to think that it might take a few things out of the game. For say new users wont get access to spawners as the ones that we didn't initially take interest in are now movable. Thus useful. If we can take spawners we should be also able to buy or sell them. And I don't really like the way it might be heading towards. Though, nonetheless we could try it and see where it leads to... |
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| Author: | [SpA]CoDxFeedz [ 10 Feb 2014, 22:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
I think that would take quite a bit of luck and/or difficulty out of the game. It would move from "Wow! I got lucky and there's a mob spawner near my base. Awesome! I just have to take the time to build a trap." To "I'll just take this spawner and place it over a large drop." |
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| Author: | tscuzimbrown [ 10 Feb 2014, 22:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
Cool!!! I like this idea! |
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| Author: | [SpA]Ashlee [ 10 Feb 2014, 22:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
But where's the fun and challenge in that?
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| Author: | tscuzimbrown [ 11 Feb 2014, 01:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
Eh there's enough fun in the game. I like this idea bc you can put multiple spawners in one space and have multiple mobs spawn at once |
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| Author: | [SpA]CoDxFeedz [ 11 Feb 2014, 02:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
I also feel this could completely ruin the economy with very minimal effort. Mbl and I discussed while building the map the plugin for mob bounties, and that there was no way to discern between naturally spawned mobs and spawner spawned mobs. Unless this has changed, this will allow you to kill many, many mobs at the same time. This would give everyone a substantial amount of money that even the current economy with the changing prices probably can't compensate for. If there's no way to distinguish between natural and spawner spawned, then it could pretty much guarantee that the map would need to be reset at the next update. That's not even taking into account what people could possibly sell the Diablo Drops tools and weapons at. (If they can be dropped from spawner spawned mobs) |
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| Author: | Arbogeddon [ 11 Feb 2014, 03:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
CoDxFeedz wrote: I also feel this could completely ruin the economy with very minimal effort. Mbl and I discussed while building the map the plugin for mob bounties, and that there was no way to discern between naturally spawned mobs and spawner spawned mobs. Unless this has changed, this will allow you to kill many, many mobs at the same time. This would give everyone a substantial amount of money that even the current economy with the changing prices probably can't compensate for. If there's no way to distinguish between natural and spawner spawned, then it could pretty much guarantee that the map would need to be reset at the next update. That's not even taking into account what people could possibly sell the Diablo Drops tools and weapons at. (If they can be dropped from spawner spawned mobs)
Thanks for letting everyone know Cod 
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| Author: | [SpA]heldplayer [ 11 Feb 2014, 16:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
CoDxFeedz wrote: I also feel this could completely ruin the economy with very minimal effort. Mbl and I discussed while building the map the plugin for mob bounties, and that there was no way to discern between naturally spawned mobs and spawner spawned mobs. Unless this has changed, this will allow you to kill many, many mobs at the same time. This would give everyone a substantial amount of money that even the current economy with the changing prices probably can't compensate for. If there's no way to distinguish between natural and spawner spawned, then it could pretty much guarantee that the map would need to be reset at the next update. That's not even taking into account what people could possibly sell the Diablo Drops tools and weapons at. (If they can be dropped from spawner spawned mobs)
The plugin knows the difference between natural spawns and spawner mobs 
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| Author: | [SpA]AP4rk3dC4r [ 12 Feb 2014, 05:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
[SpA]heldplayer wrote: CoDxFeedz wrote: I also feel this could completely ruin the economy with very minimal effort. Mbl and I discussed while building the map the plugin for mob bounties, and that there was no way to discern between naturally spawned mobs and spawner spawned mobs. Unless this has changed, this will allow you to kill many, many mobs at the same time. This would give everyone a substantial amount of money that even the current economy with the changing prices probably can't compensate for. If there's no way to distinguish between natural and spawner spawned, then it could pretty much guarantee that the map would need to be reset at the next update. That's not even taking into account what people could possibly sell the Diablo Drops tools and weapons at. (If they can be dropped from spawner spawned mobs)
The plugin knows the difference between natural spawns and spawner mobs |
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| Author: | zXPoison [ 12 Feb 2014, 19:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
As Ap4 said, spawned mobs will drop any type of armor the said mob spawns with in the spawner if it does drop. That being: gold, leather, chainmail, diamond and died leather and of course items. Them being bows, and the said armors with low-level enchants depending on spawner and luck. Whilst of course it is not by any means too big of a deal. But the sudden possibility of purchasing and/or moving mob spawners will set a monopoly for said persons that get the most mob spawners. If that does not happen and people are able to get one for let's say each base or town, the issue at hand will be that new players will be overwhelmed by people with means of getting high-level enchanted armor whom are bored and kind of picky and will possibly not be able to get enough coin to buy them as I presume they'll be rather expensive. Making them cheap will take away an essential part of the game as users will have it, making them in some means obsolete. Many will indulge in activities such as pvp and mining and thus rendering the server dead in a matter of months due to the scarcity of the overall resources... Also this means the people that actually kill regular mobs will get the most out of their diablo drop items making them basically Gods as one will not be arsed to actually kill mobs for gains as he has them spawning right under his bare feet. One can argue people will build, I don't really think most do nor will. To summarize this and put it simple: we tried it in maps before, it didn't work out too well. Those are my several cents and a dime. Shineh~ |
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| Author: | tscuzimbrown [ 23 Feb 2014, 08:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
Why don't we do a test run with it and see how it works with the inflation and all? |
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| Author: | [SpA]mbl111 [ 25 Feb 2014, 04:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Silk spawners |
Sounds good Tsc. The market *should* in theory stabilize itself around things like this. I'll add this some time tonight |
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