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Author:  Inty [ 29 Feb 2008, 16:10 ]
Post subject:  tf2 changes 29-02-2008
February 28, 2008 - Team Fortress 2 Update Released

Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:

Added "Custom" tab to the server browser


Servers can now specify metatags describing the custom rules they've adopted

Players can use tag filtering to find servers running the custom rules they want to play

Added options for servers who want to become custom games: Disable critical hits (tf_weapon_criticals), eliminate respawn times (mp_disable_respawn_times), and raise maxplayers above 24



Initial release of Tournament mode (mp_tournament)


UI for handling team naming, ready mode, and win results

Disables team player limits, autobalancing, and intermission



Class balancing


Reduced Soldier's maximum rocket reserve ammo from 36 to 16

Reduced Demoman's maximum sticky bomb reserve ammo from 30 to 16

Reduced Demoman's maximum grenade launcher reserve ammo from 40 to 24
Author:  Inty [ 29 Feb 2008, 16:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
Tournament mode!!!
Author:  Magisk [ 29 Feb 2008, 16:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
What is tournament mode? :oops:
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 29 Feb 2008, 16:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
I was wondering about that aswell!
Author:  The Reverend [ 29 Feb 2008, 17:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
Half ammo for soldiers and demomen? Christ.
And the disable crits command will keep many people happy, but I can live with crits tbh, always good to get one when trying to melee someone..
Author:  Quattro [ 29 Feb 2008, 17:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
crits do not need to be removed.
tournament mode isnt that for clanwars? :P
Author:  Crovax20 [ 29 Feb 2008, 18:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
After fiddling around with it on your servers, I've found that I rather would have had a small damage reduction for both classes. With all the weapons flying about, its not that hard to keep your ammo full. The only time you would really run out of it is if you are really good at surviving, but horrible at killing.

Too bad they haven't nerfed sticky bomb damage. 2 stickies to kill just about any class, or 1 crit sticky is just insane. Its not that hard to hit people with it! I'm seeing more and more demomans using the sticky bombs as a main weapon, and I'm not liking it.
Author:  DrMcMoist [ 29 Feb 2008, 18:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
So Saint.K, now that crits can be disabled do you plan on disabling them on any of the servers. I know it sounds unsporting to get pissed off at them but when a glowing rocket comes out of nowhere and pops you like a balloon, it's a tad frustrating. Especially as there is no criteria for achieving a Critical Hit, it's purely random. Does my box in it does. Obviously if you don't want to disable them it's not going to crush my world but... actually it will crush my world. And I've grown fond of it in it's uncompressed form
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 29 Feb 2008, 19:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
I have no intention to disable criticals. Sure sometimes you get killed by a lucky critt, but then again, sometimes you also kill lucky :)

I think the critt hits are a pretty cool dimention to the game!
Author:  DrMcMoist [ 29 Feb 2008, 19:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
Fair enough. I'll just have to combat the crits by not being shit anymore
Author:  Magisk [ 29 Feb 2008, 19:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
Crit <3 Do not remove >_<
Author:  [SpA]Noxious [ 29 Feb 2008, 19:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
Crits aren't completely random. If you do well the crit chance can rise up to 20% :shock:
Author:  Magisk [ 29 Feb 2008, 20:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
Noxious7 wrote:
Crits aren't completely random. If you do well the crit chance can rise up to 20% :shock:
Is there anyway to see your crit chance anywhere?
Author:  Crovax20 [ 02 Mar 2008, 00:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
[SpA]Magisk wrote:
Noxious7 wrote:
Crits aren't completely random. If you do well the crit chance can rise up to 20% :shock:
Is there anyway to see your crit chance anywhere?
Don't worry Magisk, you got a 100% crit chance against me :p
I've read somewhere that how well you perform, does indeed do something with your crit chance... wheter playing well ups the chance or downs it, is a different matter.
Author:  crash [ 02 Mar 2008, 00:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
The dev commentary on Gravelpit map says that the less health you have or the better your progress is (like bunch of kills in a row) the higher your crit chance. This way the game "supports" good players.
Author:  [SpA]Noxious [ 02 Mar 2008, 10:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
[SpA]Magisk wrote:
Is there anyway to see your crit chance anywhere?
No you can't see that.
Crash is right. In an interview a developer said that the crit chance can be up to 20% depending on the damage you've done the last seconds. The standard is 5%.
Quote:
If you haven't hurt anyone yet, you have a basic 5% chance of a critical hit each time you fire. If you've done some damage in the last 20 seconds, it's higher than that. If you've done 800 damage or more in that time - killed two full health Heavies and a Soldier, say - you've got a 20% chance of a crit. Between 0 and 800, the chance increases steadily between 5 and 20%.
link

I remember sometimes I get 3 crit rockets in a row :shock:
Author:  Magisk [ 02 Mar 2008, 11:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
Out of curiosity, does the bonesaw really crit more often than others (thought i saw it written somewhere) or is it just my awesomeness causing it?
Author:  [SpA]Noxious [ 02 Mar 2008, 11:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
Percent of attacks critical per weapon
Image

Bonesaw is 2nd. Wrench is 1st. Poor spies :mrgreen:
Author:  The Reverend [ 02 Mar 2008, 15:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
On the Valve forums some people were suggesting that they put in some kind of crit-meter, which tells you how much chance you have of crit. Which would be gay, everyone would camp and wait for it to go up and then go in and hope for crits. Also suggested was some kind of way to show when someone had a higher crit chance to other players, also gay, that's just another way of sticking a goddam bullseye over someones head.
Heres to hoping Valve ignore their fans..
Author:  Penis [ 02 Mar 2008, 22:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
The Reverend wrote:
On the Valve forums some people were suggesting that they put in some kind of crit-meter, which tells you how much chance you have of crit. Which would be gay, everyone would camp and wait for it to go up and then go in and hope for crits. Also suggested was some kind of way to show when someone had a higher crit chance to other players, also gay, that's just another way of sticking a goddam bullseye over someones head.
Heres to hoping Valve ignore their fans..
I hope so! It's not good to make this game tooooo much user friendly.

crits are ok, imho there is no need to disable it!
Author:  needy [ 03 Mar 2008, 19:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
I also think that crits are ok, but they just should lower the possibility of crits... I have shotted 4 crit rockets in a row so many times, that it is kind of embarrassing in some situations :oops:
Author:  [SpA]futari [ 03 Mar 2008, 23:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
Tournament mode seems fun o:
It took some getting used to, but I think the rocket/nades decrease is a good one!

Crits are fine with me
Author:  [SpA]demm [ 04 Mar 2008, 08:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
needless wrote:
I have shotted 4 crit rockets in a row so many times, that it is kind of embarrassing in some situations :oops:
you should be embarrassed that it took you so long to find the forums! :demm:
Author:  needy [ 04 Mar 2008, 14:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: tf2 changes 29-02-2008
[SpA]demm wrote:
needless wrote:
I have shotted 4 crit rockets in a row so many times, that it is kind of embarrassing in some situations :oops:
you should be embarrassed that it took you so long to find the forums! :demm:
That's definitely true :roll:
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