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Author:  bOse [ 20 Jun 2008, 16:41 ]
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So ? what update is next ?
Author:  [SpA]Baal Kagan [ 20 Jun 2008, 16:42 ]
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engineer...
Author:  [SpA]futari [ 20 Jun 2008, 16:42 ]
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I don't think anybody outside Valve knows this yet.. most likely it's the engineer.. since that's the only one we have heard valve talk about o:
Author:  Greasy_greabo [ 20 Jun 2008, 16:50 ]
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Sniper!
Author:  bOse [ 20 Jun 2008, 18:05 ]
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[SpA]Greasy_greabo wrote:
Sniper!
nah
Author:  [SpA]Nutty82uk [ 20 Jun 2008, 18:07 ]
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Spy....next week just so all the people that pick spy will be burned alive by all the Pyro's :mrgreen:
Author:  [SpA]futari [ 20 Jun 2008, 18:25 ]
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Spies with a pyro disguise can't be burned when the spy update hits~ O; O; O;

but engineer probably o:
Author:  Crovax20 [ 20 Jun 2008, 21:29 ]
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My predictions, even more ways to get crits.

Can we have a server that is "classic" TF2? Pyro alt fire should stay but all the new weapons can be thrown into the dustbin in my opinion.
Author:  [SpA]cookye [ 20 Jun 2008, 22:20 ]
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i heard the engineer is going to have a mobile sentry and new buildings Image
Author:  bOse [ 20 Jun 2008, 22:54 ]
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cookye wrote:
i heard the engineer is going to have a mobile sentry and new buildings Image

Mobile sentry :X
Author:  [SpA]futari [ 20 Jun 2008, 22:56 ]
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the mobile sentry was a bug I think, I doubt the engineer will actually get that ;p
Author:  [SpA]Bucky [ 21 Jun 2008, 08:20 ]
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Nutty82uk wrote:
Spy....next week just so all the people that pick spy will be burned alive by all the Pyro's :mrgreen:
If they're going for irony, this would be awesome :mrgreen:
But if you ask me, I want the soldier , engineer and heavy, in that order :mrgreen:
Author:  DoubleJ [ 21 Jun 2008, 09:59 ]
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bOse wrote:
cookye wrote:
i heard the engineer is going to have a mobile sentry and new buildings Image

Mobile sentry :X
How about the engineer being able to mount the sentry and then ride on it as if it were a robot...

The 'Sentry bot'...
Author:  bOse [ 21 Jun 2008, 10:42 ]
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i wonder what will have the spy instead of sapper or disguise :-?
Author:  Crovax20 [ 21 Jun 2008, 11:35 ]
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bOse wrote:
i wonder what will have the spy instead of sapper or disguise :-?
Here is what they'll do with the spy

Revolver, it will get replaced by toxin injector. If you hit someone from behind with this baby it will constantly drain their health by 40 points per second. If you hit them anywhere else the damage will only be 5 damage per second and ramps up to 40 damage per second. Only a medkit can heal this ailment.
Stunknife, you won't be able to backstab anymore but if you hit someone with it they will be stunned for a second or two a hit in the back will have a 4 second stun. Oh and it works on ubered people as well. Deals less damage then the old knife though.
Disguise, gets replaced by advanced stealth you can use your stunknife with this but it will drain your stealth meter by a bit
Sapper, you can swap this out with the supersapper but it will also sap your stealth meter. Supersapper instakills turret though

That good enuff for you? Spy will trade in his range and disguises for a slightly larger stealth meter, and close combat stuff.
Author:  DoubleJ [ 21 Jun 2008, 11:52 ]
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I think those are a bit ... not done

I was more thinking of:
Level 2 disguise -> when attacking you will not loose your disguise, however all other things, like burning, still apply to you.

Level 2 Knive -> you can now throw knives, while a back throwed knive will have same effect as a backstab

Level 4 gun -> while it still shoots, crits are not part of the gun anymore, rather they implemet tracking darts, which will give them a speech balloon for all other team members too see.
Author:  Crovax20 [ 21 Jun 2008, 12:40 ]
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DoubleJ wrote:
I think those are a bit ... not done

I was more thinking of:
Level 2 disguise -> when attacking you will not loose your disguise, however all other things, like burning, still apply to you.

Level 2 Knive -> you can now throw knives, while a back throwed knive will have same effect as a backstab

Level 4 gun -> while it still shoots, crits are not part of the gun anymore, rather they implemet tracking darts, which will give them a speech balloon for all other team members too see.
The disguise thing can't happen, because it has to be different from the old one. This would be the same but 1000000x better, and valve themselves said that the new weapons won't be better just different. Of course they are also liars because most of the new weapons are 100000x better.
Author:  [SpA]MrOrange [ 21 Jun 2008, 13:35 ]
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I don't think they'll change the sapper or the disguise at all. If you look at the spy's loadout menu, you'll see that anly the knife and the revolver are displayed, and can be changed. My bet is the spy update will be released with another class update, probably as the last.
Author:  DoubleJ [ 21 Jun 2008, 17:19 ]
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[SpA]Crovax20"]Of course they are also liars because most of the new weapons are 100000x better.[/quote]
I think medic guns are far better 'balanced'
Syringe gun gives health, but no criticals
Medigun gives 100% crits, but not invul and vica versa.
Only the ubersaw is ´uber´

As for the pyro gun
The Axe and flaregun are imo very balanced.
Flare gun is good, does lot of damage but slow reload.
Axe does less damange in return of being able to get crits.

however the new pyro gun is not really balanced, you do not have the blast(no had before this) yet you have crits from the back and additional health, which imo makes it an unbalanced gun.

This is just my opinion though.
Author:  Linus [ 23 Jun 2008, 01:06 ]
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I think that the train on cp/ctf_well needs a buff. How about giving him 50% extra speed?
Author:  Pip [ 23 Jun 2008, 04:02 ]
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Linus wrote:
I think that the train on cp/ctf_well needs a buff. How about giving him 50% extra speed?
What that train needs is crits... and a minigun.

Engineers will get magnetizers (upgrade from dispensers), they allow you to pull all hostile projectiles towards it. Magnetizers have 200 health.

teleporters will now be twoways, meaning you can travel in both directions, however they can also be used by enemies.

Sentryguns will be replaced by "shield link" this "link" protects all nearby teammates with a shieldbubble, directing all enemy fire to the "shield link" tower. "shield link" takes 250 shielded dmg or 100 direct dmg. (shielded dmg does not direct to your magnetizers)

Health points for all buildings are still to be tuned.
Author:  DoubleJ [ 23 Jun 2008, 22:37 ]
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[SpA]Pip wrote:
Linus wrote:
I think that the train on cp/ctf_well needs a buff. How about giving him 50% extra speed?
What that train needs is crits... and a minigun.

Engineers will get magnetizers (upgrade from dispensers), they allow you to pull all hostile projectiles towards it. Magnetizers have 200 health.

teleporters will now be twoways, meaning you can travel in both directions, however they can also be used by enemies.

Sentryguns will be replaced by "shield link" this "link" protects all nearby teammates with a shieldbubble, directing all enemy fire to the "shield link" tower. "shield link" takes 250 shielded dmg or 100 direct dmg. (shielded dmg does not direct to your magnetizers)

Health points for all buildings are still to be tuned.
I like the idea of the engineer being able to put up energy shields, blocking enemies for a few moments or certain amount of damange. (dunno who of you played Jedi Knight 2, well like the multiplayer shields in that game.
Author:  [SpA]Baal Kagan [ 23 Jun 2008, 22:51 ]
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kyle kartan <3 xD

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Author:  Pip [ 24 Jun 2008, 02:34 ]
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That Jedi knight shield thingie was one of the good "spells" wasn't it? I had none of those :twisted:
Author:  DoubleJ [ 25 Jun 2008, 21:38 ]
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[SpA]Pip wrote:
That Jedi knight shield thingie was one of the good "spells" wasn't it? I had none of those :twisted:
Eeeh, no.
It was an 'inventory item' which you could find on the map, just like the small sentry.
It was quite usefull on a CTF map, to get away and have a little edge when running with the flag on your back.

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Author:  [SpA]MRuler [ 26 Jun 2008, 14:00 ]
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good old jedi knight multiplayer - PWNS :rock:
Author:  DoubleJ [ 26 Jun 2008, 22:21 ]
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[SpA]MRuler wrote:
good old jedi knight multiplayer - PWNS :rock:
There are still quite a few 'chat and play duels...' servers up.

Any way, something like this particular shield device might be something nice for the engineer to be able to build that.
Author:  [SpA]demm [ 26 Jun 2008, 22:59 ]
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[SpA]MRuler wrote:
good old jedi knight multiplayer - PWNS :rock:
those where the days :-13

we played on crappy PCs over a 10BASE2 network that often didn't work. but nothing could stop us from 'Killing the Fool with the Ysalamiri' :demm:
though that was actually jedi knights 1
Author:  DoubleJ [ 27 Jun 2008, 19:37 ]
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[SpA]demm wrote:
[SpA]MRuler wrote:
good old jedi knight multiplayer - PWNS :rock:
those where the days :-13

we played on crappy PCs over a 10BASE2 network that often didn't work. but nothing could stop us from 'Killing the Fool with the Ysalamiri' :demm:
though that was actually jedi knights 1
Don't know but it was part of JK2..

I have not yet played JK3, and have been looking on several internet shops, but I cannot seem to find it anywhere anymore either...
Author:  [SpA]YellowGoudvis [ 27 Jun 2008, 19:45 ]
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I hope Engineer and i think engineer <33
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