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Regarding TF2 Chalkboard MOTD Tutorial (Slightly Off Topic)
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Author:  Noxy [ 29 Jun 2008, 14:12 ]
Post subject:  Regarding TF2 Chalkboard MOTD Tutorial (Slightly Off Topic)
http://www.specialattack.net/node/39 <--- Tutorial Link

I've managed to follow the tutorial correctly, (at least I think) to the following results.

http://www.bloodworks.org/Admin/Images/TF2/motd.html

I suppose you could say that this question is more of a generic HTML question than about the tutorial.

The problem lies in the fact that TF2 is using Internet Explorer to render out its goodness, however standard IE6 which comes with windows does not support PNG transparency without implementing a fix.

http://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/

I dont seem to be able still to get the MOTD to work on users with only IE6 after days of trying, which is a problem since a large amount of TF2 players use firefox without ever updating to IE7 ( Which is probaly a good thing )

Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Im a complete newbie @ html/
Author:  [SpA]lacop [ 29 Jun 2008, 14:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: Regarding TF2 Chalkboard MOTD Tutorial (Slightly Off Topic)
looks like you don't have iepngfix.htc in the correct directory, when trying http://www.bloodworks.org/Admin/Images/TF2/iepngfix.htc I get 404 - not found.

But I don't have IE6 so I can't try if thats the problem. We are currently using workaround that combines the background and text for IE6 users but its stretched :(

If someone can confirm that this trick works please let us know so we can improve it :)
Author:  [SpA]Voegelchen [ 29 Jun 2008, 17:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Regarding TF2 Chalkboard MOTD Tutorial (Slightly Off Topic)
tbh let the noobs with ie6 bleed :) You cant make the world perfect for everyone.
I think a not correctly appearing png is the lowest problem for ie6 users.
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 29 Jun 2008, 17:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Regarding TF2 Chalkboard MOTD Tutorial (Slightly Off Topic)
[SpA]Vögelchen wrote:
tbh let the noobs with ie6 bleed :) You cant make the world perfect for everyone.
I think a not correctly appearing png is the lowest problem for ie6 users.

Alot of people have IE6 installed as it comes default with windows XP. These users often use Firefox and can't be arsed to update to IE7 as they don't use it normally.
Author:  Noxy [ 29 Jun 2008, 19:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Regarding TF2 Chalkboard MOTD Tutorial (Slightly Off Topic)
Sorry , I deleted the .htc earlier for some reason and forgot to put it back on before posting this,

the htc is in place now if you wouldnt mind having another look.
Author:  [SpA]demm [ 29 Jun 2008, 21:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Regarding TF2 Chalkboard MOTD Tutorial (Slightly Off Topic)
Hi noxy,
Thanks four your reply. I've just tested your MOTD in IE6 and it does not work. Sorry :-14

But even if you apply the TwinHelix fix correctly, it won't help you in TF2. The embedded IE engine has all scripting features turned off. That means that .htc files, which are basicly JavaScript, will be ignored. The same goes for every other scripting based fix out there.

The solution to this problem is PNG8. So all you need is Fireworks and you can create your graphics so that everybody will correctly see the transparent background.

I hope this helps you.

PS: I think the problem in your current MOTD is that you have to apply the behavior to the img, not the surrounding div. So you just have to put this into your styles section: #content img { behavior: url(iepngfix.htc); }
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