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Author:  Dr. Brinkmann [ 01 Jul 2008, 03:06 ]
Post subject:  New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
this evening i wanted to test our new us server but couldn't find it in the serverbrowser and via the add new PIE function.
later on saint k. asked me to join but i ended up with the same results

ping command delivers timeouts and the results of tracert look like this:

tracert 8.2.122.164

Routenverfolgung zu 8.2.122.164 über maximal 30 Abschnitte

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms speedport.ip [192.168.x.x]
2 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.(timeout)
3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 217.0.66.202
4 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms f-ea5.F.DE.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.16.165]
5 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms te-4-4.car2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.68.110.253]

and it looks like this when i traceroute specialattack server #1:

tracert 85.17.60.96

Routenverfolgung zu 85.17.60.96 über maximal 30 Abschnitte

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms speedport.ip [192.168.x.x]
2 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. (timeout)
3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 217.0.66.202
4 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms f-ea5.F.DE.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.16.165]
5 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms te-4-4.car2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.68.110.253]
6 11 ms 30 ms 10 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.254.162]
7 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms hbg-bb2-pos6-1-0.telia.net [213.248.65.122]
8 30 ms 30 ms 29 ms adm-bb2-pos7-0-0.telia.net [213.248.65.161]
9 32 ms 30 ms 35 ms adm-b3-link.telia.net [80.91.254.125]
10 30 ms 30 ms 35 ms leaseweb-ic-121169-adm-b3.c.telia.net [213.248.102.154]
11 31 ms 29 ms 31 ms mr.blonde.specialattack.net [85.17.60.96]

if anyone also experiencing such probs post here, but maybe there's something wrong at my end of the line, hope not :?
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 01 Jul 2008, 03:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
[SpA]Dr. Brinkmann wrote:
this evening i wanted to test our new us server but couldn't find it in the serverbrowser and via the add new PIE function.
later on saint k. asked me to join but i ended up with the same results

ping command delivers timeouts and the results of tracert look like this:

tracert 8.2.122.164

Routenverfolgung zu 8.2.122.164 über maximal 30 Abschnitte

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms speedport.ip [192.168.x.x]
2 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.(timeout)
3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 217.0.66.202
4 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms f-ea5.F.DE.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.16.165]
5 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms te-4-4.car2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.68.110.253]

Hi,

The error occures when the traffic is still in Germany. Unfortunatly, you'll have to send this to your own ISP to report them that the route to the USA ip is not accessable.

Cheers,
Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 01 Jul 2008, 12:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
I have no problems to traceroute the US server. Get it with an average ping around 100ms (the NLbased are around 20ms).

Altough I recognized some timeouts for 20ge-chnl.amsix.nkf.leaseweb.net [195.69.145.215] in the route.
Author:  Dr. Brinkmann [ 01 Jul 2008, 15:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
looks like its a problem with my isp (Deutsche Telekom ftl) cos blackhawk and birdy have no problems with the connection! i reported it to my isp, lets see whats the problem and if they can fix it :roll:
Author:  Dr. Brinkmann [ 01 Jul 2008, 15:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
got a call from my isp and they can't figure out where the problem is, everything looks fine for them :roll:

maybe its my router, although its config is ok too :?

so if you have any suggestions feel free to post
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 01 Jul 2008, 16:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
Hi,

Your ISP is wrong.

Please do the following;

start -> run -> cmd -> tracert 8.2.122.164

Please post a copy/past from the full results (including the timeouts), then i'll compose a mail for your ISP.

Cheers,
Author:  Dr. Brinkmann [ 01 Jul 2008, 16:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
[SpA]SaintK wrote:
Hi,

Your ISP is wrong.

Please do the following;

start -> run -> cmd -> tracert 8.2.122.164

Please post a copy/past from the full results (including the timeouts), then i'll compose a mail for your ISP.

Cheers,
i have posted in the first post, after #5 the timeouts start with no additional information, so it won't help you to do it again, but i'll do
but the next thing is i conntacted a friend of mine living in a village just 10 min away from me and he has the same isp incl. same router and is also not able to ping or traceroute the server, so it is 1. an isp problem or 2. a router problem, but i haven't changed anything in the router config so....
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 01 Jul 2008, 16:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
Hi,

Please re-port the trace including the timeouts (it needs to be noob-proof for your ISP to get passed 1st level support). I'll compose a mail for you. (I work in the ISP envoirment :) )
Author:  Dr. Brinkmann [ 01 Jul 2008, 16:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
here is the full traceroute result:

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Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 01 Jul 2008, 16:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
Subject: Routing issue's on 8.0.0.0/8 subnet

Mail;

Hi,

There is currently a issue in the network regarding the routing of the 8.0.0.0/8 subnet USA, New York / New Jersy.

As you can see on the incuded traceroute, the traffic is leaving the local network (hop 1, 192.168.2.1), is router on to be local ISP network
(217.0.66.194), on to the network border at 62.154.16.161. After this it enters level3.net's interconnect at frankfurt were it should be routed
on to the USA, but its not.

Please forward this mail to your NOC. They can initialize a re-route of the traffic or inform level3 about the routing issue.

below you will find an extra traceroute from amsterdam to the target IP 8.2.122.164 so proof the IP and USA network is online and operational.

MrWhite:~# traceroute 8.2.122.164
traceroute to 8.2.122.164 (8.2.122.164), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 hosted.by.leaseweb.com (85.17.56.252) 0.383 ms 0.372 ms 0.380 ms
2 adm-b3-link.telia.net (213.248.102.153) 0.849 ms 0.858 ms 0.818 ms
3 adm-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.254.130) 0.972 ms adm-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.254.126) 0.997 ms adm-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.254.130) 0.987 ms
4 adm-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.254.225) 0.995 ms adm-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.252.17) 0.933 ms adm-b1-link.telia.net (80.91.254.225) 0.917 ms
5 ge-6-10.car2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (213.244.165.249) 1.218 ms 1.224 ms 1.147 ms
6 ae-31-53.ebr1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (4.68.120.94) 1.337 ms 5.299 ms 1.450 ms
7 ae-1-100.ebr2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (4.69.133.86) 14.444 ms 5.770 ms 1.354 ms
8 ae-2.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.132.133) 10.170 ms 21.831 ms 18.034 ms
9 ae-41.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.66) 78.821 ms 78.867 ms 87.627 ms
10 ae-2.ebr1.Newark1.Level3.net (4.69.132.98) 81.966 ms 90.532 ms 90.311 ms
11 ae-12-51.car2.Newark1.Level3.net (4.68.99.6) 79.567 ms ae-12-53.car2.Newark1.Level3.net (4.68.99.70) 79.732 ms ae-12-55.car2.Newark1.Level3.net (4.68.99.134) 79.650 ms
12 8.2.122.164 (8.2.122.164) 80.687 ms 80.451 ms 80.369 ms

Regards,

Wouter

SpecialAttack.net support
Author:  Dr. Brinkmann [ 01 Jul 2008, 16:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
sent the 3rd mail to my isp icluding traceroute screen and saints replay, now lets see if they can fix this :|
*wants to pwn on the us server* :mrgreen:
Author:  Dr. Brinkmann [ 03 Jul 2008, 17:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
stil not possible for me to access, but my isp is working on it cos with saints help and after 3 emails i passed level 1 support :mrgreen:
but it looks like a bigger problem cos my whole village and the village of one of my friends are also not able to reach this ip-range :roll:
Author:  [SpA]Unity [ 03 Jul 2008, 17:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
Think their disconnecting your village from the internet, bit by bit :o :shock:
Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 03 Jul 2008, 18:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
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Author:  [SpA]Unity [ 03 Jul 2008, 18:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
Crap my topograhy sucks, thougt Germany was somewhere else :shock:
Author:  Lim-Dul [ 03 Jul 2008, 18:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
Nah. Not according to these people. ;-)
Author:  [SpA]Nutty82uk [ 03 Jul 2008, 19:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
That is fucking hilarious :lol:

What do you type in youtube to bring that up? Stupid americans be any chance?

The bit with the fake map is genious :lol:
Author:  Lim-Dul [ 03 Jul 2008, 19:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
Nope - this clip is quite old and famous - didn't have to search much for it. I remembered "whom should we bomb next" which is only the part with the map and then found the full version in the related videos. ^^
Author:  [SpA]Nutty82uk [ 03 Jul 2008, 19:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
Typed "stupid americans" into youtube..............guess what the first video is that comes up???? :lol:
Author:  [SpA]TheWeirdo [ 04 Jul 2008, 20:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
[SpA]Nutty82uk wrote:
Typed "stupid americans" into youtube..............guess what the first video is that comes up???? :lol:
The simpsons.
Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 04 Jul 2008, 20:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
Nah. Not according to these people. ;-)
Muahaha... I love this vid. It never gets too old to laugh about... :lol:
Author:  [SpA]SonnyBlack [ 07 Jul 2008, 14:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
To cut the off-topics going on here down, :wink:
I experienced the same problem with the US server,
Cannot connect, cannot add to favs, cannot nothing... :|
Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 07 Jul 2008, 15:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
[SpA]SonnY BlacK wrote:
To cut the off-topics going on here down, :wink:
I experienced the same problem with the US server,
Cannot connect, cannot add to favs, cannot nothing... :|
What ISP do you have? Did you check with the tracert comannd?
Author:  Dr. Brinkmann [ 07 Jul 2008, 18:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
:4 i'm not alone out there :mrgreen:

so my isp is the almighty DEUTSCHE TELEKOM and for what i found out so far is that at least everyone in my village and neighbour-village can't access this ip-adress (range)!!!
sonny is from rheinland-pfalz (if i remember right), just like me, so they probably have cut off the whole state from reaching this ip-range :roll:

but i wonder why??? and i'm still waiting for some answers on my emails :|
Author:  Dr. Brinkmann [ 10 Jul 2008, 14:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
:69 :74 :73 :76 :77 :81 :80 :78 They fixed it :73 :74 :68 :69 :77 :76

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thx saint for helping out with this :57
Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 10 Jul 2008, 14:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
Nice! But that doesn't improve the ping to the USA... ;)
Author:  [SpA]futari [ 10 Jul 2008, 14:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
the high ping (100+) is perfectly playable for me and a bunch of others, tf2 is great like that <3
Author:  [SpA]Unity [ 10 Jul 2008, 14:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
true, i only notice it when im playing sniper.
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 10 Jul 2008, 14:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
[SpA]Dr. Brinkmann wrote:
:69 :74 :73 :76 :77 :81 :80 :78 They fixed it :73 :74 :68 :69 :77 :76

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thx saint for helping out with this :57

Yay :4
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 10 Jul 2008, 14:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: New SpecialAttack USA Server not accessible
heh, i now see they've routed the traffic over Amsterdam to fix the issue :mrgreen:
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