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Author:  Quattro [ 14 Aug 2008, 01:42 ]
Post subject:  4870x2 review
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/ha ... eview.html
Author:  Noodle! [ 14 Aug 2008, 09:58 ]
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I wish they'd also test performance in professional software like XSI, Maya and Photoshop. Historically ATI has been absolute ASS when it comes to that, and I'm never buying another ATI card again until I see some proof they've fixed it. I had my hopes up back with the 2900HD or whatever it was called, 8 months ago, but it was horrendeous.

Their snooty customer support didn't make it better by telling me to buy their high end cards designed specifically for XSI etc (at insane prices, just like NVidias pro cards). Why would I, when NVidias GAMING cards work like a fucking charm in pro and gaming applications.

Anyway, I wish they'd test 3D applications as well.
Author:  Quattro [ 14 Aug 2008, 15:20 ]
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Noodle! wrote:
I wish they'd also test performance in professional software like XSI, Maya and Photoshop. Historically ATI has been absolute ASS when it comes to that, and I'm never buying another ATI card again until I see some proof they've fixed it. I had my hopes up back with the 2900HD or whatever it was called, 8 months ago, but it was horrendeous.

Their snooty customer support didn't make it better by telling me to buy their high end cards designed specifically for XSI etc (at insane prices, just like NVidias pro cards). Why would I, when NVidias GAMING cards work like a fucking charm in pro and gaming applications.

Anyway, I wish they'd test 3D applications as well.

and, a single gtx 280 beats it "almost" in most of the games :mrgreen:

ill think nvidia is getting out another card now hopefully :P
Author:  Noodle! [ 14 Aug 2008, 15:33 ]
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The cool thing about NVidias new card is the physics processing. GPU's can handle that so insanely much better than a CPU, so it'll free up shitloads of processing power and just makes everything MORE SMARTSIER.
Author:  DoubleJ [ 15 Aug 2008, 19:07 ]
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Noodle! wrote:
The cool thing about NVidias new card is the physics processing. GPU's can handle that so insanely much better than a CPU, so it'll free up shitloads of processing power and just makes everything MORE SMARTSIER.
Read about Intel's larrebee yet, don't have any english articles about it, but the dutch one I've read about it sounded very promising regarding both video processing as wel as other processing. Will post link to good english article when I find one, for those dutchies, you can have a read here
Author:  [SpA]Spikespiegel [ 18 Aug 2008, 08:41 ]
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Noodle! wrote:
I wish they'd also test performance in professional software like XSI, Maya and Photoshop. Historically ATI has been absolute ASS when it comes to that, and I'm never buying another ATI card again until I see some proof they've fixed it. I had my hopes up back with the 2900HD or whatever it was called, 8 months ago, but it was horrendeous.

Their snooty customer support didn't make it better by telling me to buy their high end cards designed specifically for XSI etc (at insane prices, just like NVidias pro cards). Why would I, when NVidias GAMING cards work like a fucking charm in pro and gaming applications.

Anyway, I wish they'd test 3D applications as well.
I have absolutely no problem with my 3850HD in Photoshop.
Author:  Noodle! [ 18 Aug 2008, 10:33 ]
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After I wrote it I realised photoshop was a poor application to pick, because every fucking card works with photoshop, hahaha.
Author:  jinja_ninja [ 18 Aug 2008, 15:38 ]
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ATI's new 4870 GPUs are brilliant, including the 4870X2.

People are such fanboys when it comes to Nvidia cards.

Sure, a GTX280 is a brilliant card, but for almost $200 less you can get a single core HD 4870 which will perform almost as good as a GTX280 in real world tests. The 4870x2 is a bit more, but outperforms the GTX280 easily in most games and benchmarks.

I always buy according to the best price/performance ratio.

Obviously you have had bad experiences with ATI cards and some of your professional applications. Then again, these aren't workstation cards and driver compatibility can vary.
Author:  Noodle! [ 18 Aug 2008, 17:13 ]
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Quote:
Then again, these aren't workstation cards
yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Every time me or anyone I know uses ATI for desktop applications shit is fucked up (with a rare exception for the radeon.. uh, 9800 I think it was). However with the NVidia cards designed for gaming none of those issues show up.

ATI has had driver issues for a long long time, and if they fix it I'm happy. Shit, I tried ATI from time to time up until the 2900, and I've had both AMD and Intel cpu's. I go with what works and historically ATI doesn't work. THUS I wish they'd test it in XSI, Maya etc, because I'm too badly burnt from ATI now.

I really take offense to being called a fanboy.
Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 18 Aug 2008, 17:41 ]
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I had some problems with my ATI 1900 XT and working on 3D-computing through OpenGL, but the issues dropped with the 8.7 (?) driver version. :)
Author:  jinja_ninja [ 20 Aug 2008, 13:49 ]
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Noodle! wrote:
Quote:
Then again, these aren't workstation cards
yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Every time me or anyone I know uses ATI for desktop applications shit is fucked up (with a rare exception for the radeon.. uh, 9800 I think it was). However with the NVidia cards designed for gaming none of those issues show up.

ATI has had driver issues for a long long time, and if they fix it I'm happy. Shit, I tried ATI from time to time up until the 2900, and I've had both AMD and Intel cpu's. I go with what works and historically ATI doesn't work. THUS I wish they'd test it in XSI, Maya etc, because I'm too badly burnt from ATI now.

I really take offense to being called a fanboy.
The 2900 series was shit. End of. I can totally understand that you had issues with it.

ATI drivers have been getting a lot better recently, too.

I have found that Nvidia drivers are terrible at the moment - they release new drivers every bloody week. What does that tell you?
Author:  Quattro [ 20 Aug 2008, 15:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: 4870x2 review
yeah, the 2900 series looked powerfull but are weak :P
sure it works good on an 17" crt monitor, used that card for a while since a friend of me didnt have a mobo which fitted for it as it performs a bit better than my 8600GTS.
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