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Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 26 Aug 2008, 23:14 ]
Post subject:  TF2 crashing/freezing

Hey folks,

for the last days I have the problem that TF2 crashes once a day. Each time I'm getting healed, approaching an enemy, hearing sth. from the ingame voice chat and then TF2 hangs itself and mah complete system up. Total freeze after 2-3 sound stutterings... only hardreset is working.

Has/Had anyone a similiar problem?

Cheers
Blacky :|

Author:  Lim-Dul [ 27 Aug 2008, 00:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: TF2 crashing/freezing

Yep - similar symptoms after the Heavy update. There are reports of these crashes all over the net... I guess you have to live with them until Valve fixes their cause. ^^

Author:  Shizz [ 27 Aug 2008, 01:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: TF2 crashing/freezing

This was fixed in the last update after the heavy update apparently.

Maybe its not related, have you tried the usual? Remove Steam, Reinstall etc.

Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 27 Aug 2008, 10:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: TF2 crashing/freezing

No... I don't have the time to re-setup steam atm.

Another issue concerning the heavies: After playing the first time after the update I entered pl_badwater and there were around 5 heavies in auto-fire standing near a dispenser... imho it could be that the Source engine has simply a problem with the sounds of the guns. Something stupid like not enough sound cache or whatever. At least I had a CTD there, but no total freeze.

At the both freezes there weren't much heavies around. One freeze only a Soldier and at the other a bunch of ppl on a cp. Due to the fact that each time I got healed + voice + more sounds it's pointing again into a sound issue.

Author:  Doomshine [ 27 Aug 2008, 12:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: TF2 crashing/freezing

I'm not sure if it's the same crashes I've been having. For me the game can freeze at any time and the sound just loops over and over again until I do a hard reset.

I can't figure out what is causing it because it seems completely random, sometimes I get it once a day, sometimes not for a few days e.t.c.
One thing I've tried now is to set my Hardware Sound Acceleration to basic, so far no crash but I'll have to test for at least a week or two before I can say it actually works.

Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 18 Sep 2008, 11:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: TF2 crashing/freezing

[SpA]Doomshine wrote:
I'm not sure if it's the same crashes I've been having. For me the game can freeze at any time and the sound just loops over and over again until I do a hard reset.
Yeah... that's exact what I' meaning.

Happened yesterday twice again... each time I was playing Heavy. I'm pretty sure that is has something to do with that guy.

Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 18 Sep 2008, 12:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: TF2 crashing/freezing

give verify gamecache a try, u never know

Author:  Shizz [ 18 Sep 2008, 12:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: TF2 crashing/freezing

ive had it a few times but not since i ran the DX update...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... latedLinks

Author:  Doomshine [ 18 Sep 2008, 14:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: TF2 crashing/freezing

[SpA]Shizz wrote:
ive had it a few times but not since i ran the DX update...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... latedLinks
I've done this as well and it hasn't crashed since then, but I'll have to wait and see because I also changed Hardware Sound Acceleration to basic and thought that fixed it but it did crash after about a week.
[SpA]Blackhawk wrote:
Happened yesterday twice again... each time I was playing Heavy. I'm pretty sure that is has something to do with that guy.
I don't know, my crashes happened with and without heavies.

Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 18 Sep 2008, 17:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: TF2 crashing/freezing

[SpA]SaintK wrote:
give verify gamecache a try, u never know
If I don't have to do this once a day it doesn't help.

[SpA]Shizz wrote:
ive had it a few times but not since i ran the DX update...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... latedLinks
I already have the August 2008 version of DX. :/
[SpA]Doomshine wrote:
I don't know, my crashes happened with and without heavies.
And medic? Have you been healed as the game freezes?

Perhaps the problem is Heavy => most of time shooting => lots of sound and the problem lies somewhere in the sound libs of the Source engine. As mentioned above... my first crash of this kind was entering Badwater with 5 heavies perma-shooting next to a dispenser. The problem is that you cannot say if it's "sound error => freeze" or "freeze => sound error", but there's a big topic according to the freezes in the Steam boards... so I hope that Valve will/can fix this sooner or later.

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