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Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 21 Dec 2008, 23:50 ]
Post subject:  More = better?
I am thinking about making server 3 32 slots. Personally i like the more chaos the better!

Please note this vote is *only* about server 3! Servers 1 and 2 will remain untouched.

Please cast your vote!
Author:  [SpA]futari [ 21 Dec 2008, 23:52 ]
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eww no.. that's not chaos.. that's a contest of finding a spot to stand~
Author:  [SpA]Migu [ 21 Dec 2008, 23:54 ]
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Yay, might be fun!
I voted yes! 8)
Author:  Bartg [ 22 Dec 2008, 00:02 ]
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Thats not a good idea, since good 32 slot servers require proper maps - on most standard map thats just demoman spamfest all the time :/
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 22 Dec 2008, 00:10 ]
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Bartg wrote:
Thats not a good idea, since good 32 slot servers require proper maps - on most standard map thats just demoman spamfest all the time :/

We could regulate this with the classlimiter plugin which runs on our servers.
Author:  Bartg [ 22 Dec 2008, 00:37 ]
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2-3 demomans is a good amount for 32 slots, and 4 pyros ;)
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 22 Dec 2008, 01:48 ]
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Well one demoman can make a map a spam fest, as i did on steel today :/ But anyway, i dont mind. Do you think there's any chance of a no-crit server? Or is that not ever going to happen? :wink:
Author:  Bartg [ 22 Dec 2008, 02:16 ]
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Afair there was a no-crit server and it was empty all the time ;]
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 22 Dec 2008, 02:24 ]
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Awww man that sucks, I love playing without crits, makes the game so much more skill based :(
Author:  [SpA]Nutty82uk [ 22 Dec 2008, 07:27 ]
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Yeah why not, as long as the other 2 servers stay the same it should not be a problem
Author:  [SpA]Scatterbrain [ 22 Dec 2008, 09:22 ]
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as long as they don't replace the current servers and that you think there'll be enough demand for them, go for it.
but can we not have 2fort in rotation? I think everyone's agreed it's the most boring map in the world. :<

I'm also up for a nocrits server, as I (sometimes) actually enjoy that more :p
Author:  [SpA]futari [ 22 Dec 2008, 09:26 ]
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map changed to turbine yesterday I think.. and we lost about 10 people :(
Author:  [SpA]Mr.green [ 22 Dec 2008, 09:51 ]
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32 players :mrgreen: = on map change more people left( to kill :lol: )
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 22 Dec 2008, 09:52 ]
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I find that I'm always playing dustbowl and goldrush so now I just spam SpA points whenever I'm on to get rid of them. Turbine, Fastlane, Well and Badlands are better maps by far :(
Author:  Crovax20 [ 22 Dec 2008, 10:12 ]
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No, because i know you will want us to fill up that server. And then all my buddies are playing on that crappy 32 slot server and then I get to choose between playing on a 24 players server or play on the spamtastic 32 player one with my buddies
Author:  [SpA]Relentless [ 22 Dec 2008, 11:33 ]
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I dont care tbh, theres no big difference between 14v14 and 16v16.
Author:  [SpA]Loke [ 22 Dec 2008, 13:39 ]
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Isn't Well in the map rotation anymore? A long time since I played that.

On the topic at hand though, I don't really mind.
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 22 Dec 2008, 13:57 ]
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Loke wrote:
Isn't Well in the map rotation anymore? A long time since I played that.

On the topic at hand though, I don't really mind.

It is. We have a day and night cycle, its there between 10 AM en 10PM
Author:  [SpA]Repel [ 22 Dec 2008, 14:19 ]
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I don't mind if it's only server 3, voted yes. :P
Author:  Bartg [ 22 Dec 2008, 16:23 ]
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Quote:
I find that I'm always playing dustbowl and goldrush so now I just spam SpA points whenever I'm on to get rid of them. Turbine, Fastlane, Well and Badlands are better maps by far
I think the game has been for over a year, so most players who know the game plays 4-5 standard maps just like every other game ( cs, battlefields, call of duty etc. ), so the server will empty or maps like steel, turbine, not to mention any not standard map. Ya know, pro players cant let them die because they dont know every inch of a map ;)
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 22 Dec 2008, 18:26 ]
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Bartg wrote:
Ya know, pro players cant let them die because they dont know every inch of a map ;)
? :| Which maps are we talking of here ^^
Author:  Bartg [ 22 Dec 2008, 18:36 ]
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All custom maps ;)
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 22 Dec 2008, 19:05 ]
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You don't need to know a map to kill on it, just sit near a door and plant stickies on it, set up a sentry or camp it with a heavy/soldier and your set for the whole game, especially on 14vs14.

I actually played on the custom map server quite a lot when I was in Grr!, some of the maps are pretty fun, especially playing geothermal as a soldier.
Author:  MikeDH [ 23 Dec 2008, 09:34 ]
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"why not?"

Still got server 1 and 2, and if you don't like 32 players don't play it.
Author:  Crovax20 [ 23 Dec 2008, 10:32 ]
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MikeDH wrote:
"why not?"

Still got server 1 and 2, and if you don't like 32 players don't play it.
And what happens when the server is empty? Saint spams us invites to fill it up/we join to fill it up, all my buddies I like to play with go onto that server and I can choose between the spamtastic server with my buddies on it or a normal server without any buddies.

32 players just sucks, its way too spammy. I dunno who here enjoys getting grenade/rocket spammed and chokepoints but I sure don't. Its simply an exercise in frustration at that point, playing scout and spy is nearly pointless as well because with so many people around its just pointless you will run into someone every second. The impact of larger server on the class balance is profound and thats why I would be against it. Spy, scout, pyro, suffer the most from this, since they need to be close range and can't resort to standing far away spamming instapwn rockets/grenades nor have the health to get up close like the heavy.

More does not equal better. At a certain point more just becomes an obstacle, think about it like this. 1 barman behind the bar can serve 5 spamembers relatively fast. 2 barmans can do 12 relatively fast, 3 can do 20 relatively fast, 4 can only do 24 relatively fast since they will get in eachothers way. There is a reason valve official number is max 24 players. After that point the gameplay just starts degrading too much and too many stalemates will appear.
Author:  [SpA]Relentless [ 23 Dec 2008, 12:44 ]
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Server #1 = 24slots
Server #2 = 28slots
Server #3 = 32slots

What about this?
Author:  sebas [ 23 Dec 2008, 14:46 ]
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Well, I'd never play on a 32 player server because of the spamfest. There's little for me to add after Crovax's post, and I agree with him.
Author:  MikeDH [ 23 Dec 2008, 14:52 ]
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Don't forget engi, it's a struggle to keep anything up.

Meh, see how it goes.
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 23 Dec 2008, 19:39 ]
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I want to change my vote to it not happening, I hate spam fests (Unless im doing it to make a point about steel :mrgreen:). It will probably be ok for demo's and soldiers since they do large splash damage, but for other classes it will be to much spam. (Even heavies with medics will be boned against all the demo's and soldiers)
Author:  Suiclider [ 08 Jan 2009, 09:53 ]
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Did this ever happen? I find anything over 24 players to be a bit overkill, so I voted a big fat no.
Would be fun to have a server with 8vs8, no crits and maps like granary, badlands, well etc.
I know at least one certain not so big moose who probably agrees with me. :)
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