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Author:  [SpA]Scatterbrain [ 15 Feb 2009, 13:20 ]
Post subject:  using an old router as a 'wireless adapter'?
after switching to BT a few days ago I've changed from using the old netgear router to the home hub (the wireless router BT provides) for connecting to the internet wirelessly. so, I'm left with my old netgear router and I'm thinking, what if I could use this as a sort of wireless adapter for my xbox 360?

the plan, more or less, is this:

1. xbox 360 connected with ethernet cable to netgear route
2. netgear router connected to homehub
3. homehub connected to intarnets
end result: whatever I had connected to the netgear router (in this case, the xbox) has internet access

however, at stage 2, the plan nearly falls apart, mainly because I'm not entirely sure what I should be doing. is it a case of bridging the 2 routers (which, I'm under the impression, is essentially making them into one big router), or (what I would preffer) having the home hub accept the router as any other wireless device and give it internet access? and how exactly do I go about doing this?

it should be noted that I'm a bit useless when it comes to networking and all that jazz :<
Author:  dckjns [ 16 Feb 2009, 16:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: using an old router as a 'wireless adapter'?
Not entirely sure what a home hub really is, but why do you need the middle stage, the router, there?
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 16 Feb 2009, 16:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: using an old router as a 'wireless adapter'?
A couple of questions;

- Does your netgear have a ADSL interface?
- Does your current new ADSL router serve DHCP?
- Does your old netgear serve DHCP?
Author:  [SpA]demm [ 16 Feb 2009, 19:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: using an old router as a 'wireless adapter'?
Usually routers/access points can't directly connect to other routers/access points through their wireless interface.
It's not about the hardware, it's a simple design decision by the manufacturer which is implemented in the firmware. Especially if you have an old Netgear devices, chances are, that this will not be possible.

This feature is called "ethernet client mode", or something like this, and is usually advertised on the box of the device. (Example) So if you didn't read about that feature in the manual you'll most likely not be able to use it.
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 16 Feb 2009, 20:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: using an old router as a 'wireless adapter'?
[SpA]demm wrote:
Usually routers/access points can't directly connect to other routers/access points through their wireless interface.
It's not about the hardware, it's a simple design decision by the manufacturer which is implemented in the firmware. Especially if you have an old Netgear devices, chances are, that this will not be possible.

This feature is called "ethernet client mode", or something like this, and is usually advertised on the box of the device. (Example) So if you didn't read about that feature in the manual you'll most likely not be able to use it.
From what i gather from his post is that he wired his hub with his netgear, and his xbox wireless to his equipment? Or am i misunderstanding?
Author:  [SpA]Scatterbrain [ 16 Feb 2009, 22:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: using an old router as a 'wireless adapter'?
[SpA]SaintK wrote:
From what i gather from his post is that he wired his hub with his netgear, and his xbox wireless to his equipment? Or am i misunderstanding?
to clarify:

xbox >(wired ethernet connection)> netgear router
netgear router >(wireless connection)> homehub router (or, this is what I would like to have)
homehub > internet hole-in-the-wall

also
Quote:
A couple of questions;

- Does your netgear have a ADSL interface?
- Does your current new ADSL router serve DHCP?
- Does your old netgear serve DHCP?
as far as I'm aware, the answer is to all of these is yes
Quote:
Usually routers/access points can't directly connect to other routers/access points through their wireless interface.
It's not about the hardware, it's a simple design decision by the manufacturer which is implemented in the firmware. Especially if you have an old Netgear devices, chances are, that this will not be possible.

This feature is called "ethernet client mode", or something like this, and is usually advertised on the box of the device. (Example) So if you didn't read about that feature in the manual you'll most likely not be able to use it.
a quick look in the router's settings suggests you're right on this one.

any more ideas guys? the more I look into this, the less likely it seems it's able to work :/
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 16 Feb 2009, 22:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: using an old router as a 'wireless adapter'?
Oh, in that case, see demm's reply :mrgreen:
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 16 Feb 2009, 22:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: using an old router as a 'wireless adapter'?
What i always do is Internet router (with dhcp for local network)---cable(on ethernet ports, not WAN)----wireless router (ADSL int disabled, DHCP disabled, wireless enabled) --> rest of devices.

But thats when you want to relise a wireless network when you already have a ADSL router in your network, and only a wireless station availible with ADSL interface.


Another solution, which is pretty pointless....

Put a PC in the middle, and put to wireless NIC's on them, and bridge the connections. One connects to router A, one to router B. Because of the bridge the network will think they have a direct connection.
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