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 Post subject: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 02:04 
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Is there anyway of seeing how many item drops I've had?

200 hours of TF2 in the last 2 weeks (Lot's of idling), wouldn't mind knowing how many items I got during that time.

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 08:25 
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Why would you idle? Don't you have all the weapons already? Think about the environment when you just leave your comptuer on :/

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 09:37 
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I've found around 50 items in 110hours past 2 weeks. So do the maths :mrgreen:

We want hats Spike. There are a lot more energy consuming devices at the house than a PC :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 09:42 
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Pretty sad how everyone wants this goddamn hats although they do nothing in terms of gameplay. It just lengthens your e-peen.

Yes, I do also idle :ugly: I dont leave my PC turned on during the night though ;P

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 09:50 
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
Is there anyway of seeing how many item drops I've had?

200 hours of TF2 in the last 2 weeks (Lot's of idling), wouldn't mind knowing how many items I got during that time.
Unless you set it to log your items in settings.txt (assuming you're using the SourceOP thing), then no.

I've been running that thing constantly for days to no avail.

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 09:52 
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Yeah I do, but then I'd have to count them :/ Or is there a way of seeing how many lines there are in a notepad doc

I've been running it for weeks and weeks and weeks

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 09:53 
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[SpA]Relentless wrote:
Pretty sad how everyone wants this goddamn hats although they do nothing in terms of gameplay. It just lengthens your e-peen.

Yes, I do also idle :ugly: I dont leave my PC turned on during the night though ;P
Why would hats make your e-peen bigger? They just look funny
[SpA]Spikespiegel wrote:
Why would you idle? Don't you have all the weapons already? Think about the environment when you just leave your comptuer on :/
I save that energy by using Low Energy Lightbulbs :| No but seriously, the computer uses hardly anything compared to lots of other appliances, such as fridge/freezers/kettles/heating.

I would moan at valve if I were you, I never left it on overnight before other than to download, which was rarely.

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 10:17 
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Its okay for me to detonate this nuke, because I replanted the amazon yesterday

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 10:37 
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^^ I think the exaggeration might be a slight overkill on that one.

In that last 12 days I've had a rate of 0.73 items per hour so that means I have received approximately 145 items during that time :/

Can't really extrapolate that since I think they changed the item drop rate, 2 months ago it was at around 0.95/hour, or I have had a rather unlucky drop rate in the last 200 hours of idling :3

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 10:39 
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Am i really the only one that doesn't care about those hats?
I really don't feel any need of getting one :|

My pc is already running 24/7 (for some years now :) ) but i cba to use the F00l program.

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 10:42 
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but but but, like two or so of the hats a re re really kewl

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 10:45 
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xD I don't want the 'cool' hats (which ever they are), I want the silly ones. I suppose it's more about me being a jealous person, since some people already have 3+ hats where-as the rest have 0.

Personally I think valve should've let me do a better drop rate formula, because their formula is crap :u

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 11:26 
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[SpA]Spikespiegel wrote:
Why would you idle? Don't you have all the weapons already? Think about the environment when you just leave your comptuer on :/
Of course, The Idling program doesn't use much of the 'puter - so run the special attack group Folding@home at the same time. Waste not, want not.

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 12:21 
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[SpA]Unity wrote:
Am i really the only one that doesn't care about those hats?
Nope... I have deleted 3 hats so far.

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 12:36 
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you could have waited till 2012 when they update tf2 with the item swapping function and sold them on ebay. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 14:37 
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I got this SteamStats idle thing running for 2 weeks, result:

// Items you get (including hats) will be logged here if the setting is enabled

[08/17 11:52:32 PM] Item ID 26594805: The Huntsman (level 10)
[08/18 01:11:05 AM] Item ID 26611514: The Sandman (level 15)
[08/18 01:36:05 AM] Item ID 26616750: Jarate (level 5)
[08/18 05:42:05 AM] Item ID 26659902: The Kritzkrieg (level 8)
[08/18 06:32:04 AM] Item ID 26668482: The Dead Ringer (level 5)
[08/18 10:42:01 AM] Item ID 26712178: The Dead Ringer (level 5)
[08/18 11:07:00 AM] Item ID 26716394: The Force-A-Nature (level 10)
[08/18 11:23:00 PM] Item ID 26881442: The Cloak and Dagger (level 5)
[08/18 11:47:59 PM] Item ID 26887610: The Huntsman (level 10)
[08/19 03:09:11 AM] Item ID 26933574: The Blutsauger (level 5)
[08/19 06:29:08 AM] Item ID 26977702: Natascha (level 5)
[08/19 08:59:11 AM] Item ID 27005547: The Backburner (level 10)
[08/19 11:54:08 AM] Item ID 27036225: Natascha (level 5)
[08/19 11:03:59 PM] Item ID 27187140: The Sandman (level 15)
[08/20 03:02:24 AM] Item ID 27240646: The Huntsman (level 10)
[08/20 06:32:49 AM] Item ID 27284591: The Ubersaw (level 10)
[08/20 07:22:48 AM] Item ID 27294343: The Razorback (level 10)
[08/20 07:47:52 AM] Item ID 27298843: The Sandvich (level 1)
[08/20 10:42:50 AM] Item ID 27328885: The Sandvich (level 1)
[08/20 11:07:49 AM] Item ID 27333307: Bonk! Atomic Punch (level 5)
[08/20 11:32:49 AM] Item ID 27337708: The Force-A-Nature (level 10)
[08/20 12:22:49 PM] Item ID 27346650: The Ubersaw (level 10)
[08/20 02:27:47 PM] Item ID 27370294: The Flare Gun (level 10)
[08/20 04:07:50 PM] Item ID 27391172: The Blutsauger (level 5)
[08/20 04:57:49 PM] Item ID 27402196: The Axtinguisher (level 10)
[08/20 11:07:22 PM] Item ID 27494507: The Razorback (level 10)
[08/21 01:12:25 AM] Item ID 27524249: The Ambassador (level 5)
[08/21 01:37:23 AM] Item ID 27529917: Bonk! Atomic Punch (level 5)
[08/21 02:02:23 AM] Item ID 27535386: The Backburner (level 10)
[08/21 02:52:21 AM] Item ID 27546369: Natascha (level 5)
[08/21 05:23:23 AM] Item ID 27579872: Bonk! Atomic Punch (level 5)
[08/21 09:33:19 AM] Item ID 27628731: The Axtinguisher (level 10)
[08/21 11:38:23 AM] Item ID 27650928: The Axtinguisher (level 10)
[08/21 01:18:18 PM] Item ID 27669670: The Sandvich (level 1)
[08/21 02:08:16 PM] Item ID 27679760: Jarate (level 5)
[08/21 03:23:15 PM] Item ID 27695488: The Backburner (level 10)
[08/21 03:48:15 PM] Item ID 27701002: The Dead Ringer (level 5)
[08/21 04:13:14 PM] Item ID 27706549: The Huntsman (level 10)
[08/21 06:18:12 PM] Item ID 27735715: Bonk! Atomic Punch (level 5)
[08/22 02:36:37 AM] Item ID 27855192: Bonk! Atomic Punch (level 5)
[08/22 05:07:30 AM] Item ID 27888779: The Ubersaw (level 10)
[08/22 06:22:29 AM] Item ID 27906045: The Razorback (level 10)
[08/22 06:47:28 AM] Item ID 27911669: The Dead Ringer (level 5)
[08/22 07:37:27 AM] Item ID 27922451: The Sandman (level 15)
[08/22 09:17:26 AM] Item ID 27942586: The Razorback (level 10)
[08/22 09:42:26 AM] Item ID 27947422: The Dead Ringer (level 5)
[08/22 10:57:29 AM] Item ID 27961580: The Force-A-Nature (level 10)
[08/23 12:56:37 AM] Item ID 28162882: The Flare Gun (level 10)
[08/23 01:21:32 AM] Item ID 28169010: Jarate (level 5)
[08/23 02:11:30 AM] Item ID 28180832: Jarate (level 5)
[08/23 06:22:26 AM] Item ID 28238086: The Force-A-Nature (level 10)
[08/23 08:02:26 AM] Item ID 28259931: The Axtinguisher (level 10)
[08/23 10:32:24 AM] Item ID 28290063: The Sandman (level 15)
[08/23 11:26:52 PM] Item ID 28481080: The Huntsman (level 10)
[08/24 01:31:49 AM] Item ID 28512596: The Flare Gun (level 10)
[08/24 02:22:54 AM] Item ID 28524325: The Force-A-Nature (level 10)
[08/24 03:12:53 AM] Item ID 28535758: Bonk! Atomic Punch (level 5)
[08/24 04:27:52 AM] Item ID 28553058: Jarate (level 5)
[08/24 08:13:02 AM] Item ID 28598546: The Axtinguisher (level 10)
[08/24 10:17:59 AM] Item ID 28620612: Bonk! Atomic Punch (level 5)
[08/24 10:42:59 AM] Item ID 28625045: The Killing Gloves of Boxing (level 7)
[08/24 11:57:57 AM] Item ID 28638805: The Ubersaw (level 10)
[08/24 02:27:56 PM] Item ID 28667866: The Sandman (level 15)
[08/24 04:07:57 PM] Item ID 28689267: The Huntsman (level 10)
[08/25 12:03:08 AM] Item ID 28808222: The Sandvich (level 1)
[08/25 02:08:03 AM] Item ID 28837125: The Dead Ringer (level 5)
[08/25 02:33:07 AM] Item ID 28843789: Bonk! Atomic Punch (level 5)
[08/25 05:04:09 AM] Item ID 28877853: The Flare Gun (level 10)
[08/25 07:09:07 AM] Item ID 28903948: Jarate (level 5)
[08/25 07:34:06 AM] Item ID 28908696: The Sandman (level 15)
[08/25 07:59:06 AM] Item ID 28913232: The Ubersaw (level 10)
[08/25 11:44:01 AM] Item ID 28952618: Natascha (level 5)
[08/25 01:23:59 PM] Item ID 28972173: The Huntsman (level 10)
[08/25 04:44:02 PM] Item ID 29015066: The Backburner (level 10)
[08/26 01:08:47 AM] Item ID 29137927: The Backburner (level 10)
[08/26 02:23:43 AM] Item ID 29154438: The Axtinguisher (level 10)
[08/26 03:13:43 AM] Item ID 29165425: The Huntsman (level 10)
[08/26 03:38:43 AM] Item ID 29170910: The Axtinguisher (level 10)
[08/26 04:28:42 AM] Item ID 29181864: The Ubersaw (level 10)
[08/26 05:43:41 AM] Item ID 29198024: The Backburner (level 10)
[08/26 07:23:38 AM] Item ID 29217508: The Killing Gloves of Boxing (level 7)
[08/26 09:03:36 AM] Item ID 29235496: The Force-A-Nature (level 10)
[08/26 11:33:34 AM] Item ID 29261379: The Ambassador (level 5)
[08/26 01:38:32 PM] Item ID 29284565: The Axtinguisher (level 10)
[08/26 02:03:32 PM] Item ID 29289440: The Axtinguisher (level 10)
[08/26 03:18:30 PM] Item ID 29304426: Bonk! Atomic Punch (level 5)
[08/26 03:43:30 PM] Item ID 29309729: The Force-A-Nature (level 10)
[08/26 05:48:28 PM] Item ID 29337744: The Cloak and Dagger (level 5)
[08/26 07:53:26 PM] Item ID 29367805: The Sandvich (level 1)
[08/27 10:02:44 AM] Item ID 29543941: The Cloak and Dagger (level 5)
[08/27 12:57:41 PM] Item ID 29575416: The Sandman (level 15)
[08/27 01:22:33 PM] Item ID 29580190: The Dead Ringer (level 5)
[08/27 01:47:22 PM] Item ID 29585129: The Blutsauger (level 5)
[08/27 02:13:35 PM] Item ID 29589976: The Kritzkrieg (level 8)
[08/27 05:33:38 PM] Item ID 29633635: Natascha (level 5)
[08/27 06:23:37 PM] Item ID 29645558: The Blutsauger (level 5)
[08/27 06:48:37 PM] Item ID 29651559: The Sandvich (level 1)
[08/27 08:28:36 PM] Item ID 29676836: Natascha (level 5)
[08/27 09:43:34 PM] Item ID 29696601: The Huntsman (level 10)
[08/27 10:08:33 PM] Item ID 29703250: The Force-A-Nature (level 10)
[08/28 12:13:36 AM] Item ID 29735118: The Force-A-Nature (level 10)
[08/28 02:18:34 AM] Item ID 29763686: The Blutsauger (level 5)
[08/28 03:33:33 AM] Item ID 29780483: The Killing Gloves of Boxing (level 7)
[08/28 05:38:30 AM] Item ID 29808139: The Sandvich (level 1)
[08/28 07:43:34 AM] Item ID 29832708: Natascha (level 5)
[08/28 08:58:32 AM] Item ID 29846420: The Cloak and Dagger (level 5)
[08/28 10:38:30 AM] Item ID 29864237: The Cloak and Dagger (level 5)
[08/28 12:43:27 PM] Item ID 29887565: The Sandman (level 15)

AND STILL NO HATS!
You can enable logging in the idler config file if u are using :)

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 15:15 
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I got an idle thingy working on another player, just incase it gets my main steam account band. All I want is the bonk hat. I really want the bonk hat. I have no idea why though.


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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 15:36 
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Good thing I'm not using that programm, because it seems to bring no hats at all. :P
I'll just be patient. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 15:38 
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[SpA]9mmNL wrote:
I got this SteamStats idle thing running for 2 weeks, result:

-items-

AND STILL NO HATS!
You can enable logging in the idler config file if u are using :)
Yah I know, but I lost my old versions, so I dont have all the logs ;) 2 weeks isn't long for idling ^^

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 15:39 
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[SpA]Migu wrote:
Good thing I'm not using that programm, because it seems to bring no hats at all. :P
I'll just be patient. 8)
A lot of people have got hats using the program, since it's exactly the same as running TF2 except you use less resources ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 15:42 
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[SpA]Migu wrote:
Good thing I'm not using that programm, because it seems to bring no hats at all. :P
I'll just be patient. 8)
5 hats for me from this app :P


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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 17:16 
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[SpA]Spikespiegel wrote:
[SpA]Unity wrote:
Am i really the only one that doesn't care about those hats?
Nope... I have deleted 3 hats so far.
Thats like throwing away food. Someone else might want it :(

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2009, 21:07 
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yeah the drop rate for the hats seems really low.

I want hats :(

but not leaving my computer running on idle just to get them, cant do it any good.


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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2009, 03:20 
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ands its pointless too, it does not dramatically change the odds.

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2009, 09:06 
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I don't see how you can say that, because the more times you have the chance to get it (even if the chance does not change each time), you still have more chance overall. Because each weapon drop is a roll and you get a tiny percent chance to get a hat, so getting that chance more than someone else makes you more likely to get a hat.

Someone who idles for 2000 hours is much more likely to get a hat than someone who plays for 200 hours.

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2009, 12:45 
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More stats/probabilities talking. Just saw this.
I can confirm the time mentioned there :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2009, 13:05 
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
Someone who idles for 2000 hours is much more likely to get a hat than someone who plays for 200 hours.
I really don't think that is the case. yes you are on longer but the percentage drop for hats is so low, you have about as much chance as someone who logs into one of our games for 5mins. Plus if the last post is correct, then everyones timers will be off by when they first launced the game with the new updated code.

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2009, 13:25 
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You have just as much chance per cycle as someone who plays for 10% of your time spent playing, but you get 10 times more of those cycles, so the chance of you having an item is greater... It's how statistics works, it won't be like that for everyone in a small community like this, but if you collected the data from everyone playing TF2 it would work out like that (unless the TF2 drop system is messed up). Idling increases the amount of cycles you can get, hence a better overall chance of getting a hat (since you won't be playing all day, where-as you can idle all day).

I didn't explain it very well last time, the quote should read:
[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
Someone who idles for 2000 hours is much more likely to have a hat than someone who plays for 200 hours.
Using the last post that means someone idling for 2000 hours gets a bit less than 500 1.1% chances to get a hat, where-as person playing for 50 hours gets a bit less than 50, so there is obviously more chance for the 2000 hour person to have a hat.

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2009, 13:29 
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I want a hat

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 Post subject: Re: Item Drops
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2009, 13:47 
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Supposedly you only need to idle for 125 hours before theoretically speaking you have 100% chance of a hat, of course this is statistical so it could go to 1000+ hours without getting one, which is rather silly.

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