SpecialAttack.net :: It's the time to come clean

I'm gonna go ahead and ask the obvious question - we're talking 'bout idling here?

Idled and proud of it.

Idling to me is just like bug exploiting... so i didnt do it in case someone would see me doin it and then tell big mean valve and he would take away all my goodies... I mean seriously... who didnt expect them to get pissed that people were just spending all the time they should be "playing" doing something like work or sleep and still getting goodies. Shame on thou!

Baby I can see my halo!

The cheat lies in using a 3rd party software... Which is against pretty much ANY game (developer/distributor/whatever) company's policy

siphon wrote:

Baby I can see my halo!

The cheat lies in using a 3rd party software... Which is against pretty much ANY game (developer/distributor/whatever) company's policy

Get out Siphon, nobody wants to hear what you've got to say.

Go on. Do one!

[SpA]DrMcMoist wrote:

Get out Siphon, nobody wants to hear what you've got to say.

Go on. Do one!

Erm - like Mumble? 3rd party software to get around the constant open chat in game makes it crawl? Also useful to circumvent the no talking to dead people part of the game. Christ lets hope Valve never catch onto that and in-game-silence anyone using a separate chat program (giving them all permanent colombian neck-tie "hats" as a mark of shame).

[SpA]Tpyo wrote:

It doesn't hook into the game though, the overlay is just an overlay. Although it does give people an advantage competitively :O That means it's a form of cheating by their EULA.

[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:

It doesn't hook into the game though, the overlay is just an overlay. Although it does give people an advantage competitively :O That means it's a form of cheating by their EULA.

*So aruably is playing with textures/skins, binding keys to do anything involving timing, tweaking the interpolation timing, having a better connection, having a faster computer, being born with the normal prequisite number of fingers and toes... You get the idea.

[SpA]Tpyo wrote:

Since mumble has no interaction with the game then it isn't covered by the EULA i guess :3

[SpA]Greasy_greabo wrote:

Idling on SpA servers to attract more players is exactly the same form of cheating. Even more so, since people join in good faith, assuming that there's something going on gameplay-wise, only to find a bunch of SpA-idlers. You actually cheat other people, instead of just a shitty system.

Argument pwned!

[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:

Argument pwned!

Ive never idled on our server. Because I have things to do with my PC when Im not on it.. Like turn it off..

Author:	Murk [ 03 Sep 2009, 17:51 ]
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Let's count how many blasphemers are among us. Also post if you didn't get punished while you would have to be and vice versa.

Author:	[SpA]Scatterbrain [ 03 Sep 2009, 17:53 ]
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I'm gonna go ahead and ask the obvious question - we're talking 'bout idling here?

Author:	Murk [ 03 Sep 2009, 17:56 ]
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[SpA]Scatterbrain wrote: I'm gonna go ahead and ask the obvious question - we're talking 'bout idling here? So I walk into a church and ask the priest "So what's about this God fella, is he real?" Okay bad example but it's relevant in the way of how the answer given would be obvious.

Author:	[SpA]SonnyBlack [ 03 Sep 2009, 17:58 ]
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Idled and proud of it.

Author:	Murk [ 03 Sep 2009, 18:00 ]
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[SpA]Sonny Black wrote: Idled and proud of it. " he said just before he was plummeted to 4th level of hell

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Author:	[SpA]Tpyo [ 03 Sep 2009, 18:03 ]
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Idle and proud of it - but never idled. I only wanted about 5 hats (pyro glove/beanie, Afro+glengarry for the demo and texas chrome dome) and the odds of getting hats sucked in general, idling or not, so I was never that bothered.

Author:	dckjns [ 03 Sep 2009, 18:10 ]
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Idled a lot. Didn't get jack shit. Well, obviously I did get items, but they were pretty much all removed the instant I got them because of lower level.

Author:	[SpA]Scatterbrain [ 03 Sep 2009, 18:17 ]
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no I didn't idle. but to take the moral high ground would be silly; I didn't idle because I looked down on the people who did, but because I couldn't be arsed to download and run the program.

Author:	[SpA]futari [ 03 Sep 2009, 18:39 ]
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I was definitely looking do--- eh.. well I never really cared about the hats enough to idle ^^

Author:	Bartg [ 03 Sep 2009, 18:59 ]
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Idle ftw !

Author:	[SpA]gibboss28 [ 03 Sep 2009, 19:12 ]
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Cant say i have used them.

Author:	[SpA]Johnny [ 03 Sep 2009, 19:12 ]
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A couple of days ago wanted to start and idle so i choose : I have sinned because i thinked about it

Author:	ProtectMyBalls [ 03 Sep 2009, 19:16 ]
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still blame cardboard....

Author:	[SpA]Cpt.Awesome [ 03 Sep 2009, 19:49 ]
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idling is for foools

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Author:	[SpA]_w3s [ 03 Sep 2009, 19:52 ]
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does idle in RL count too?

Author:	Greasy_greabo [ 03 Sep 2009, 20:12 ]
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Idling to me is just like bug exploiting... so i didnt do it in case someone would see me doin it and then tell big mean valve and he would take away all my goodies... I mean seriously... who didnt expect them to get pissed that people were just spending all the time they should be "playing" doing something like work or sleep and still getting goodies. Shame on thou!

Author:	[SpA]SonnyBlack [ 03 Sep 2009, 20:15 ]
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[SpA]Greasy_greabo wrote: Idling to me is just like bug exploiting... so i didnt do it in case someone would see me doin it and then tell big mean valve and he would take away all my goodies... I mean seriously... who didnt expect them to get pissed that people were just spending all the time they should be "playing" doing something like work or sleep and still getting goodies. Shame on thou! Tell me wheres the exploit, you are doing the same as in idling on an achievement server, you are just using less cpu. Its like running tf2 in a window.

Author:	saifon [ 03 Sep 2009, 20:20 ]
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Baby I can see my halo! The cheat lies in using a 3rd party software... Which is against pretty much ANY game (developer/distributor/whatever) company's policy

Author:	Lim-Dul [ 03 Sep 2009, 21:27 ]
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[SpA]Greasy_greabo wrote: Idling to me is just like bug exploiting... so i didnt do it in case someone would see me doin it and then tell big mean valve and he would take away all my goodies... I mean seriously... who didnt expect them to get pissed that people were just spending all the time they should be "playing" doing something like work or sleep and still getting goodies. Shame on thou! Idling on SpA servers to attract more players is exactly the same form of cheating. Even more so, since people join in good faith, assuming that there's something going on gameplay-wise, only to find a bunch of SpA-idlers. You actually cheat other people, instead of just a shitty system. ;-) Argument pwned!

Author:	DrMcMoist [ 03 Sep 2009, 21:34 ]
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siphon wrote: Baby I can see my halo! The cheat lies in using a 3rd party software... Which is against pretty much ANY game (developer/distributor/whatever) company's policy Get out Siphon, nobody wants to hear what you've got to say. Go on. Do one!

Author:	[SpA]Loke [ 03 Sep 2009, 22:03 ]
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Never saw the point in it. I'm clean, father.

Author:	[SpA]Tpyo [ 03 Sep 2009, 22:49 ]
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[SpA]DrMcMoist wrote: siphon wrote: Baby I can see my halo! The cheat lies in using a 3rd party software... Which is against pretty much ANY game (developer/distributor/whatever) company's policy Get out Siphon, nobody wants to hear what you've got to say. Go on. Do one! Erm - like Mumble? 3rd party software* to get around the fact that constant open chat from all players in game makes it crawl? Also useful to circumvent the no talking to dead people part of the game. Christ lets hope Valve never catch onto that and in-game-silence anyone using a separate chat program (giving them all permanent colombian neck-tie "hats" as a mark of shame). In before "taking 3rd party..." too literally. *In before "Douche".

Author:	[SpA]Minimoose! [ 03 Sep 2009, 22:51 ]
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[SpA]Tpyo wrote: [SpA]DrMcMoist wrote: Get out Siphon, nobody wants to hear what you've got to say. Go on. Do one! Erm - like Mumble? 3rd party software to get around the constant open chat in game makes it crawl? Also useful to circumvent the no talking to dead people part of the game. Christ lets hope Valve never catch onto that and in-game-silence anyone using a separate chat program (giving them all permanent colombian neck-tie "hats" as a mark of shame). It doesn't hook into the game though, the overlay is just an overlay. Although it does give people an advantage competitively :O That means it's a form of cheating by their EULA.

Author:	[SpA]Tpyo [ 03 Sep 2009, 22:52 ]
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote: [SpA]Tpyo wrote: Erm - like Mumble? 3rd party software to get around the constant open chat in game makes it crawl? Also useful to circumvent the no talking to dead people part of the game. Christ lets hope Valve never catch onto that and in-game-silence anyone using a separate chat program (giving them all permanent colombian neck-tie "hats" as a mark of shame). It doesn't hook into the game though, the overlay is just an overlay. Although it does give people an advantage competitively :O That means it's a form of cheating by their EULA. 'tis that last part I'm commenting on Moosey. Mumble is more of an unfair advantage* than the idling program. *So aruably is playing with textures/skins, binding keys to do anything involving timing, tweaking the interpolation timing, having a better connection, having a faster computer, being born with the normal prequisite number of fingers and toes... You get the idea.

Author:	[SpA]Minimoose! [ 03 Sep 2009, 23:04 ]
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[SpA]Tpyo wrote: [SpA]Minimoose! wrote: It doesn't hook into the game though, the overlay is just an overlay. Although it does give people an advantage competitively :O That means it's a form of cheating by their EULA. *So aruably is playing with textures/skins, binding keys to do anything involving timing, tweaking the interpolation timing, having a better connection, having a faster computer, being born with the normal prequisite number of fingers and toes... You get the idea. Well no, because the scripts are part of the game and aren't a 3rd party program, they are commands in game. Textures and skins are as well, although in CSS you used to be able to create transparent skins making a undetectable wallhack. It has to be a third party program, and I'm pretty sure it has to be interacting with the game somehow. I believe that most aimbots mimic hardware inputs to the game, hence they 'hook' into it. I was never really sure how ESP (Extra-sensory perception) works, does it modify texture files? I don't have a clue. Since mumble has no interaction with the game then it isn't covered by the EULA i guess :3

Author:	[SpA]Relentless [ 03 Sep 2009, 23:25 ]
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote: [SpA]Tpyo wrote: *So aruably is playing with textures/skins, binding keys to do anything involving timing, tweaking the interpolation timing, having a better connection, having a faster computer, being born with the normal prequisite number of fingers and toes... You get the idea. Since mumble has no interaction with the game then it isn't covered by the EULA i guess :3 Of course not. It's not like I am going to get punished for having an Antivirus up and running while playing.

Author:	[SpA]Minimoose! [ 03 Sep 2009, 23:39 ]
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Antivirus can block steam.exe/hl2.exe, ban now please.

Author:	xrs [ 04 Sep 2009, 00:18 ]
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I've done both. I had a separate account idling to try and get hats just incase something like this happened. If it didn't, I would trade the hats over to my main account . I'm kind of a big deal...

Author:	Greasy_greabo [ 04 Sep 2009, 00:25 ]
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote: [SpA]Greasy_greabo wrote: Idling to me is just like bug exploiting... so i didnt do it in case someone would see me doin it and then tell big mean valve and he would take away all my goodies... I mean seriously... who didnt expect them to get pissed that people were just spending all the time they should be "playing" doing something like work or sleep and still getting goodies. Shame on thou! Idling on SpA servers to attract more players is exactly the same form of cheating. Even more so, since people join in good faith, assuming that there's something going on gameplay-wise, only to find a bunch of SpA-idlers. You actually cheat other people, instead of just a shitty system. Argument pwned! Ive never idled on our server. Because I have things to do with my PC when Im not on it.. Like turn it off..

Author:	[SpA]Minimoose! [ 04 Sep 2009, 00:50 ]
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[SpA]Greasy_greabo wrote: [SpA]Lim-Dul wrote: Idling on SpA servers to attract more players is exactly the same form of cheating. Even more so, since people join in good faith, assuming that there's something going on gameplay-wise, only to find a bunch of SpA-idlers. You actually cheat other people, instead of just a shitty system. Argument pwned! Ive never idled on our server. Because I have things to do with my PC when Im not on it.. Like turn it off.. Congratulations, you don't use the idle program yet you still judge people who do, so whats stopping you from judging people who idle to trick people into joining servers, something which actually effects people rather than a system.