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| Author: | Lim-Dul [ 10 Apr 2010, 13:31 ] |
| Post subject: | HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8612825.stm Well, this doesn't concern most of you but hell, so many famous Polish figures died in that crash, it's mind boggling. Our president was an asshole but I don't think anybody wished him death. And then there were many members of parliament from various parties with him and generals and others. Boy, oh, boy this is an absolute shock and disaster especially from a political standpoint even though I feel for the families of the deceased. And they were going to replace that plane soon too... Hmmm... :-\ Here's Spike's list in English, for ones that are curious about the political functions of the people involved: Quote: 1.Lech Kaczyński – President
2.Maria KaczyÅ„ska – First Lady 3.Ryszard Kaczorowski – Last Polish President in exile 4.Joanna Agacka-Indecka - President of the Bar Council 5.Ewa BÄ…kowska 6.Gen. Andrzej BÅ‚asik - Air Force Commander in Chief 7.Krystyna Bochenek – Senate Deputy Speaker 8.Anna Maria Borowska – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 9.Bartosz Borowski – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 10.Gen. Tadeusz Buk - Commander of Land Forces 11.Miron Chodakowski – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 12.CzesÅ‚aw CywiÅ„ski - Chairman of World Union of AK Soldiers (Polish anticommunist army during WWII) 13.Leszek DeptuÅ‚a - Member of Parliament 14.Zbigniew DÄ™bski - Member of Virtuti Militari Commission 15.Grzegorz Dolniak – Member of Parliament 16.Katarzyna DoraczyÅ„ska - Presidential Office 17.Edward Duchnowski – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 18.Aleksander Fedorowicz - Translator 19.Janina FetliÅ„ska - Senator 20.JarosÅ‚aw Florczak – Government Protection Bureau 21.Artur Francuz – Government Protection Bureau 22.Gen. Franciszek GÄ…gor – Chief of Staff of the Polish Army 23.Grażyna GÄ™sicka – Member of Parliament 24.Gen. Kazimierz Gilarski - Commander of Garrison Warsaw 25.PrzemysÅ‚aw Gosiewski – Member of Parliament 26.BronisÅ‚aw Gostomski – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 27.Mariusz Handzlik – Secretary of State at the President's Chancellery 28.rev. Roman Indrzejczyk - Presidential Chaplain 29.PaweÅ‚ Janeczek – Government Protection Bureau 30.Dariusz Jankowski 31.Izabela Jaruga Nowacka – Member of Parliament 32.rev. Józef Joniec - Chairman of Parafiada Association 33.Sebastian Karpiniuk – Member of Parliament 34.Vice Admiral Andrzej Karweta - Navy Commander in Chief 35.Mariusz Kazana - Chief of Diplomatic Protocol 36.Janusz Kochanowski – Ombudsman 37.Gen. StanisÅ‚aw Komornicki - Chancellor of Virtuti Militari Order (highest Polish military decoration) 38.StanisÅ‚aw Jerzy Komorowski - Deputy Minister of Defense 39.PaweÅ‚ Krajewski 40.Andrzej Kremer - Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs 41.ZdzisÅ‚aw Król – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 42.Janusz Krupski - Chairman of Offices for Combatants and the Repressioned 43.Janusz Kurtyka – Head of National Institute of Remembrance 44.Andrzej KwaÅ›nik – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 45.Gen. BronisÅ‚aw Kwiatkowski - Commander Operations 46.Wojciech LubiÅ„ski - Presidential Doctor 47.Tadeusz Lutoborski – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 48.Barbara MamiÅ„ska - Presidential Office 49.Zenona Mamontowicz-Åojek – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 50.Stefan Melak – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 51.Tomasz Merta - Deputy Minister of Culture 52.StanisÅ‚aw Mikke – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 53.Aleksandra Natalli-Åšwiat – Member of Parliament 54.Janina Natusiewicz-Mirer 55.Piotr Nosek – Government Protection Bureau 56.Piotr Nurowski – Head of the Polish Olympic Committee 57.BronisÅ‚awa Orawiec Loeffler – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 58.Jan OsiÅ„ski – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 59.Adam Pilch – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 60.Katarzyna Piskorska – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 61.Maciej PÅ‚ażyÅ„ski – Member of Parliament 62.Tadeusz PÅ‚oski – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 63.Gen. Wojciech PotasiÅ„ski - Commander of Special Forces 64.Andrzej Przewoźnik - Secretary-General of the Council for the Protection of Memory of Struggle and Martyrdom 65.Krzysztof Putra – Deputy Speaker of the Parliament 66.rev. Ryszard Rumianek - Rector of the KardynaÅ‚ Stefan WyszyÅ„ski University 67.Arkadiusz Rybicki – Member of Parliament 68.Andrzej Sariusz-SkÄ…pski – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 69.Wojciech Seweryn – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 70.SÅ‚awomir Skrzypek – Head of the National Bank of Poland 71.Leszek Solski – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 72.WÅ‚adysÅ‚aw Stasiak – Head of the President's Chancellery 73.Jacek Surówka – Government Protection Bureau 74.Aleksander SzczygÅ‚o – Head of the National Security Bureau 75.Jerzy SzmajdziÅ„ski – Sejm deputy Speaker 76.Jolanta Szymanek-Deresz – Member of Parliament 77.Izabela Tomaszewska - Presidential Office 78.Marek Uleryk – Government Protection Bureau 79.Anna Walentynowicz - Initiator of strike in Gdansk Shipyard 80.Teresa Walewska-PrzyjaÅ‚kowska – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 81.Zbigniew Wassermann – Member of Parliament 82.WiesÅ‚aw Woda – Member of Parliament 83.Edward Wojtas – Member of Parliament 84.PaweÅ‚ Wypych – Secretary of State at the President's Chancellery 85.StanisÅ‚aw ZajÄ…c – Member of Parliament 86.Janusz ZakrzeÅ„ski 87.Gabriela Zych – Member of the Committee of KatyÅ„ Families 88.Dariusz MichaÅ‚owski – Government Protection Bureau |
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| Author: | [SpA]Minimoose! [ 10 Apr 2010, 13:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
Mental, huge blow to most Polish I assume. |
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| Author: | Lim-Dul [ 10 Apr 2010, 13:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
Yeah, it's also a HUUGE problem for the Polish army since while the commander of the armed forces wasn't on board ALL the commanders of the subdivisions like the navy, the air force etc. WERE. 0_o We'll be running out of generals, cynically speaking. And you know, for me it isn't about the President, especially since his role is quite minor in Poland apart from representing the country abroad and I literally hated him, but about the other political figures, many of which I really respected. |
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| Author: | Bartg [ 10 Apr 2010, 14:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
Forever Cursed Katyn. Dozens of high ranked politicians, priests, generals, National Bank President, cant even think about impact this will have on our contry :/ That's 67th Tu-154 plane crash in its history, which was even scrapped by russian airlines couple of years ago  Last year before recent service of the plane all the plane pilots refused to continue flying it calling it "flying coffin", My God they were right...
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| Author: | dckjns [ 10 Apr 2010, 14:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
Could someone hook me up with some polish news sites? I'd like to see how covered this is. I tried googling but only ended up with english ones. |
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| Author: | Bartg [ 10 Apr 2010, 14:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
www.gazeta.pl . www.wp.pl . www.onet.pl |
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| Author: | [SpA]SaintK [ 10 Apr 2010, 15:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
WOW 
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| Author: | [SpA]Scatterbrain [ 10 Apr 2010, 15:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
wow. this is gonna have pretty serious consequences, for the whole of Europe. |
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| Author: | [SpA]SaintK [ 10 Apr 2010, 15:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
Oh btw, it seems your in need of a president. Want to have ours? |
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| Author: | [SpA]Scatterbrain [ 10 Apr 2010, 15:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
orrr Lim for pres of Poland! |
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| Author: | [SpA]Spikespiegel [ 10 Apr 2010, 15:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
That sucks  Soooo... I hear you have a lot of interesting openings. To whom do I address my resumé ? EDIT: Thanks. I was translating my own list to English, but dont need to anymore 
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| Author: | Lim-Dul [ 10 Apr 2010, 15:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
[SpA]SaintK wrote: Oh btw, it seems your in need of a president. Want to have ours?
Nah, in case of death we will have a by-election and we have our share of assholes to fill the spot too. Ironically the presidential elections were supposed to take place this Fall anyway...P.S. Whose idea was it exactly to put like ALL the Joint Chiefs of Staff (generals) together on one plane? We don't need another country to attack us! They just have to send us some Tupolevs. -.- |
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| Author: | [SpA]Bucky [ 10 Apr 2010, 16:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
This is terrible shit yeah. Is this really an accident? Why would you put all those ppl on such a plane ?
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| Author: | Bartg [ 10 Apr 2010, 17:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
[SpA]Bucky wrote: This is terrible shit yeah. Is this really an accident?
Cause it was our best (!!!) government plane Why would you put all those ppl on such a plane ? 1986 Tu-154... That type had already crashed at least 66 times since launched in 1972 I guess someone forced pilots to land in that weather, control tower clearly told them NOT to land in Smolensk and go to Minsk or Moscow. Instead they tried 2-4 ( different sources ) times and it ended tragically...
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| Author: | DrMcMoist [ 10 Apr 2010, 17:45 ] |
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What a horrific tragedy. |
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| Author: | Lim-Dul [ 10 Apr 2010, 18:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
[SpA]Bucky wrote: This is terrible shit yeah. Is this really an accident? :shock: Why would you put all those ppl on such a plane ?
Well, don't ask me why they'd put them on SUCH a plane, but clearly they needed to be there for the memorial service and such. They could have flown in different planes, I guess.
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| Author: | [SpA]Blackhawk [ 10 Apr 2010, 21:06 ] |
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That's simply a real tragedy.
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| Author: | sebas [ 11 Apr 2010, 10:52 ] |
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Well, a county's Air Force One was supposed to be the safest thing in the air, right?  It's indeed a tragedy. |
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| Author: | talibek [ 12 Apr 2010, 10:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
Im Polish, and the thing is, many of us cry, many not BUT! who the heck puts 6 generals to 1 air-plain with a presidend for God sake... [SpA]sebas wrote: Well, a county's Air Force One was supposed to be the safest thing in the air, right?
USA has a Air Force One, we had just a old polish air-plane Tu-154. Just like R.I.P. Kaczyński said before he died: we are willing to buy a new president air-plane (oh irony). We are not a poor country, we are just abit out-dated, but everything will change now. Just like in programming, "people that doesnt do backups, will start to do them"It's indeed a tragedy. [SpA]Lim-Dul wrote: Yeah, it's also a HUUGE problem for the Polish army since while the commander of the armed forces wasn't on board ALL the commanders of the subdivisions like the navy, the air force etc. WERE. 0_o
no we wont. Sub-generals are now generals (its automatic) so our army is safe. The problem is: new election. The president isn't a powerfull person in the country, hes only a visit card, premier (? dobrze napisalem) and the gooverment holds the keys to our country.
We'll be running out of generals, cynically speaking. |
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| Author: | dckjns [ 12 Apr 2010, 17:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
Just like in programming; they have backups. Phew. |
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| Author: | [SpA]SaintK [ 12 Apr 2010, 17:51 ] |
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"Please select your restore point ...." |
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| Author: | Lim-Dul [ 12 Apr 2010, 19:18 ] |
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And the president had a clone of himself since he had an identical twin brother. :-P But you know, the twin brother was actually more active and important than Lech - he used to be our prime minister. He is just as big an asshole if not bigger though. |
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| Author: | DrMcMoist [ 13 Apr 2010, 14:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
If the President is just a token position, with no real power, I'll do it. I'll be Poland's new President. And my first order of business would be.... INVADE GERMANY!!! 
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| Author: | [SpA]Toresson [ 14 Apr 2010, 14:21 ] |
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Not to be an arse or anything, but seeing as Poland is one of the last theocracys in Europe this might just be a nice spot for a paradigm shift? Get rid of all that catholic moral law bullshit? |
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| Author: | sebas [ 14 Apr 2010, 14:40 ] |
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You can't do that in a country where the vast majority of people are religious and hold the church to great respect. I would know, around here God is even an issue in the presidential elections propaganda. |
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| Author: | [SpA]Toresson [ 14 Apr 2010, 19:25 ] |
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Bah, then perhaps most of the people in poland should have been on that plane.
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| Author: | [SpA]YellowGoudvis [ 16 Apr 2010, 17:14 ] |
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[SpA]SaintK wrote: Oh btw, it seems your in need of a president. Want to have ours?
Even though we DONT have an president we could you hook up with one?Anway it must suck to lose a president etc |
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| Author: | [SpA]Blackhawk [ 17 Apr 2010, 13:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
[SpA]DrMcMoist wrote: If the President is just a token position, with no real power, I'll do it.
We don't have anything you want here... I'll be Poland's new President. And my first order of business would be.... INVADE GERMANY!!! 
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| Author: | DrMcMoist [ 17 Apr 2010, 15:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HOLY SHIT! 0_o (Polish President et al die in crash) |
[SpA]Blackhawk wrote: [SpA]DrMcMoist wrote: If the President is just a token position, with no real power, I'll do it.
We don't have anything you want here... I'll be Poland's new President. And my first order of business would be.... INVADE GERMANY!!! 
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| Author: | [SpA]Bucky [ 17 Apr 2010, 17:44 ] |
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McMoist is from scotland lads, ladies look like this over there:  *edit* I didn't know you were talking about germany, I thought we were still on about poland. No , germany idd doesn't have anything anyone would want
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