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Author:  [SpA]Bill Gaitas [ 13 Apr 2010, 23:17 ]
Post subject:  My GPU died. OH NOES
Hey everyone. It's been a while since I posted here (and played TF2). Mass Effect has got me hooked and schools a bitch. But I have some questions.

My GPU, the NVIDIA 9600GT has recently died. The fan broke and I have no warranty for the thing. Since I couldn't be bothered to pay to fix this POS, I decided to buy a new one. I was interested in a 260GTX, however that thing is sold out all over Portugal and I can't find one. HOWEVER, I found out a ATi HD 5770 (XFX) for 160 Euros. Not bad. But the thing is, it's ATi. I never owned one and I heard that their drivers aren't all that great compared to NVIDIA's. It may be a bunch of BS, bah.

Looking up on Wikipedia, the interface on the 5770 is PCIe 2.1. Does it work on a PCIe 2.0 Mobo?
Will it run fine on a 600W PSU? (I currently have a 450W PSU, but I am ditching that one soon)
Is there a way to put PhysX games taking advantage of the card? It's NVIDIA PhysX, so I don't expect it to work.
I don't have a powerful CPU (C2D E4500 @ 2.2Ghz), nor do I have a lot of RAM (2Gb). How bad will the bottleneck be? (I am replacing the Mobo, CPU and RAM later this year)

That's it. HALP ME
Author:  [SpA]Voegelchen [ 14 Apr 2010, 09:48 ]
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Hey there,

PCIe is always compatible. If you connect a faster GPU to a slower MB or vice versa it will just slow down. Its like USB. And PCIe 1x, 4x and 8x cards fit into x16 slots but not the other way round. :)

Yesterday arrived my very first ATI pc too and so far I am satisfied. The drivers are as good as the nvidia ones its just a new control center to learn. A fitting Nvidia card would be the 250GTS for you. I recommend the Asus Black Knight there. A 5770 is totally oversized for your PC with bottlenecks everywhere but if you want to upgrade anyway this years it will be okay. A 450 watt PSU is way more than OK for your hardware. Even with the new GPU your pc wouldnt require more than 250 watt.

PhysX is like CUDA a Nvidia exclusive thingy. But there arent many PhysX games out there and with a powerfull processor you wont notice a huge difference anyway.
Author:  [SpA]Bill Gaitas [ 14 Apr 2010, 15:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: My GPU died. OH NOES
[SpA]Voegelchen wrote:
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Hey there. Thanks for the help bird.

I am expecting to upgrade the PC by July, probaby installing an i5 and 4 GB of RAM.
On guru3d they recomend atleast a 500W PSU. I already ordered the 600W one. It's going to cut the price on the July upgrade.

BIIIIIIIIRRRD
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 14 Apr 2010, 18:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: My GPU died. OH NOES
if your upgrading to and i5 and stuff you should get a pretty high wattage, you can get them for a small price anyway.

For example: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/161664 (Probably a bit overboard for your requirements though)
Author:  sebas [ 14 Apr 2010, 19:14 ]
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A bit?! 750 is enough to power two of the same computers. And then some.
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 15 Apr 2010, 09:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: My GPU died. OH NOES
I was aiming more towards the quality of the psu rather than the wattage, it was the first one I found on ebuyer :D
Author:  sebas [ 15 Apr 2010, 18:52 ]
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Then I'll throw this quality list in:

Excellent:
Fortron-Source based (Sparkle/SPI, Powertech, BFG, some PC P&C models, Aopen, OCZ GameXstream, Antec Basiq, Zalman)
Seasonic based (Antec Neo HE/TP Trio/EarthWatts, PC P&C Silencers, Corsair)

Above medium:
Enhance based (most Silverstone and Akasa, some ASUS)
Lite-On based (Supermicro/Ablecom)
Delta based (some Chieftec)
Enermax
Channel Well based (Antec, Meridian XClio, some Thermaltake)
Topower based (OCZ, Globalwin, Be Quiet!, Athena Power, A+GBP, Tagan, some Vantec, Spire/Speeze, Mushkin, BFG)
AcBel Polytech based (Coolermaster, some ASUS)
SevenTeam based (Sytrin, MGE, XG, some CoolerMaster, Thermaltake, Masscool)
Andyson Electronics based (some Hiper, AC Ryan, Aerocool Zero-dba, Sunbeam NUUO)
Heroichi based (HEC, Compucase, some Thermaltake)

Medium:
Superflower/TTGI/Fore Point/Fortrex
Wintech based (Sintek, Ultras that are not 1st generation X-Connect)
Sirtec based (most Thermaltake, some Chieftec, Yesico)

So instead of buying a crapload of W for no use, get a Corsair or Antec model close to your actualy watt usage, which is certified 85%+ so you'll be sure your system will have a reliable and solid backbone. :)
Of note is that a lot more important than overall watt power is the stability of voltage the power supply puts on the rails.
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 15 Apr 2010, 19:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: My GPU died. OH NOES
Exactly why I recommended Earthwatts and said that the wattage was overboard :ugly: It's the PSU I have, so it was the first one I thought of ^^
Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 16 Apr 2010, 10:26 ]
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With aiming for an i5 go for an ATI 5850. :18

Oh and people telling something like "uhh... ATI drivers are such crap... I stay with nvidia" should have a big printing on their forehead: FANBOY!

Never had any severe problems with either ATI nor nvidia.
Author:  [SpA]Howard [ 17 Apr 2010, 00:10 ]
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Dear god...
Author:  [SpA]Bill Gaitas [ 17 Apr 2010, 10:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: My GPU died. OH NOES
Oh shit. What a turn of events.

Looks like I am going to get a new Rig with a i7 920, 8 Gb RAM, and a HD 5870.

Looks like the upgrade was sooner than I expected D:
Author:  [SpA]Voegelchen [ 17 Apr 2010, 10:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: My GPU died. OH NOES
Thats a ridicioulous overpowered and power hungry rig.
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 17 Apr 2010, 12:39 ]
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[SpA]Bill Gaitas wrote:
Oh shit. What a turn of events.

Looks like I am going to get a new Rig with a i7 920, 8 Gb RAM, and a HD 5870.

Looks like the upgrade was sooner than I expected D:
:mrgreen:
Author:  [SpA]Blackhawk [ 17 Apr 2010, 13:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: My GPU died. OH NOES
[SpA]Voegelchen wrote:
Thats a ridicioulous overpowered and power hungry rig.
No sir... that would be something with a nvidia 480. ;)

A friend is running the same config with only 6 GB RAM (8 doesn't make that much sense for the i7)... "Empire: Total War" was still runnning slow at the beginning. :ugly:
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 17 Apr 2010, 15:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: My GPU died. OH NOES
Well, with the 480 it wouldn't be ridiculously overpowered, just power hungry :x

Bring it back to the good old 200 series
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