23:14… @Drunken_F00l: my statement is:
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: also I'm not that stressed out about it
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: if Valve wants to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ yet again
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: then let them
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: whatever.
23:14… Dark-Dragon: Drunken_F00l: tell us, did you do anything wrong? i mean like more than analyzing the drop times?
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: there was a leak
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: the drop times were leaked
23:15… RabidZombie: I guess by a Valve employee
23:15… @Drunken_F00l: yes
23:15… @Drunken_F00l: valve apparently thinks the leak is my problem
23:15… Nwks: wow, so much for "random chance"
23:15… @Drunken_F00l: yes
23:15… @Drunken_F00l: the random chance is all BS
23:15… @Drunken_F00l: the times were predetermined
23:16… jorgenson: hey DF if you had kept the times to yourself... you prob would not be banned
23:16… @Drunken_F00l: jorgenson: I wasn't the source, I had no control over that
23:16… Dragonshadow: Drunken_F00l: so they haven't said anything to you yet?
23:17… @Drunken_F00l: Dragonshadow: I called Robin. We talked about it.
23:18… Cyborgmatt: @Drunken_F00l: Dragonshadow: I called Robin. We talked about it.
23:18… Cyborgmatt: does that mean you agreed to the ban?
23:18… Cyborgmatt: or was it unexpected
23:18… @Drunken_F00l: I called him after I saw the ban
23:18… @Drunken_F00l: he wanted to talk earlier but I said I couldn't because I was busy at work
23:20… SonicXVe: are you involved in the other two people getting banned?
23:20… @Drunken_F00l: SonicXVe: no
23:21… Subaru: Drunken_F00l, did your api key get removed too, or is the website just being slow
23:21… @Drunken_F00l: Subaru: I don't know anything about that. My guess is it's being slow.
23:23… Kigabit: Drunken F00l, I assume they changed all the predetermined times after they found out they were leaked?
23:23… @Drunken_F00l: Kigabit: Yes, absolutely.
23:23… DSpawn: DF, so was it actually true that you got it by chance, or did you know almost for certain you where going to get it
23:23… @Drunken_F00l: DSpawn: I knew for certain when it dropped
23:23… Kigabit: Did you have to craft on the exact second it was supposed to drop?
23:24… @Drunken_F00l: Kigabit: The craft had to reach the crafting server at the exact second. First craft after the time was reached got the wrench.
23:24… ohyes: Did you actually know the exact times, DF?
23:24… @Drunken_F00l: yes
23:25… @Drunken_F00l: all of them
23:25… BatterieS: do you know the next time?
23:25… @Drunken_F00l: the times were changed
23:25… baronbeetle: so the times were down to the second, not minute?
23:25… @Drunken_F00l: baronbeetle: Yes
23:25… cvarley: Drunken_F00l, how many wrenches did you have? Just the one?
23:25… @Drunken_F00l: cvarley: You can only get one.
23:26… ohyes: So, DF, did you tell voidy and thomas?
23:26… @Drunken_F00l: ohyes: I don't know about these people. If they had the times, I don't know how.
23:27… DSpawn: are you the only person who knew the times or could someone else have found them, perhaps using the new/old api? or a different method?
23:27… @Drunken_F00l: DSpawn: Others had them.
23:30… unkz: Drunken_F00l: what about tf2items? you shut it down?
23:30… @Drunken_F00l: unkz: no
23:30… EwOkLuVeR69: f00l you should've crafted moer than once around taht time to not make it so obvious
23:31… @Drunken_F00l: EwOkLuVeR69: yes
23:31… Dist: Drunken_F00l if the ban wont be lifted, will you create a new steam account and buy a new copy of tf2?
23:31… @Drunken_F00l: Dist: I already have multiple accounts but I will miss my 6dig
23:31… DSpawn: DF - do you even care you dont have a wrench?
23:31… @Drunken_F00l: DSpawn: no
23:31… FannyPack: here's my question DF and I won't ask another one cause I know you're busy answering other questions. But do you suppose you'd be ousted if the whole forum didn't rage about it?
23:32… @Drunken_F00l: FannyPack: I have no way of knowing. The whole forum raging was inevitable anyways.
23:32… FireSlash: Drunken_F00l, is tf2items down due to load? Or did something happen there too?
23:32… @Drunken_F00l: FireSlash: Heavy load
23:32… Dark-Dragon: Drunken_F00l: you were piling up items for quite some time, did you know about how this event would work earlier?
23:33… @Drunken_F00l: Dark-Dragon: no i was saving metal for new hats
23:33… Totakeke7: Why'd you do it, DF?
23:33… @Drunken_F00l: Totakeke7: I wanted a wrench :3
23:33… netshroud: Drunken_F00l: is the VAC ban related to golden wrench frop, or not?
23:34… @Drunken_F00l: netshroud: The vac ban was because I had a script to craft as fast as possible before they removed the smelt metal blueprint and also because I used leaked times to get a wrench.
23:35… ohyes: lied, obviously.
23:35… @Drunken_F00l: ohyes: Yes, the TF2 team lied to you about how the wrench drop works
23:35… Sturmcock: DF, stop avoiding the question. How were the times leaked?
23:36… @Drunken_F00l: Sturmcock: By a person. Not anything in the binaries
23:36… Silv3r: Did someone from valve contact etc.
23:37… @Drunken_F00l: Silv3r: Robin emailed me and gave him his home phone number wanting to explain what was going to happen before it happened. I was too busy at work to call immediately.
23:37… Cyborgmatt: Drunken_F00l, was the drop time leak done on purpose or accidental?
23:37… @Drunken_F00l: Cyborgmatt: Not accidently
23:38… hobomania: Drunken_F00l, did you enjoy the GW whilst it lasted?
23:38… @Drunken_F00l: hobomania: I didn't even use it
23:40… Silv3r: You said you knew times?
23:40… Silv3r: But yesterday you said it was all random...
23:41… @Drunken_F00l: Silv3r: I was covering my ♥♥♥. It didn't help.
23:42… RabidZombie: LunarPrince: He didn't use logic. He used insider information then a script.
23:43… @Drunken_F00l: RabidZombie: The script was first actually. It was only for uncrafting/recrafting metal. It's part of the reason for the ban.
23:43… Dark-Dragon: Drunken_F00l: give us robis number, come on you want to do it, dont you?
23:43… @Drunken_F00l: Dark-Dragon: That wouldn't be right
23:51… VoyagerI: They seriously banned you for speedcrafting?
23:51… @Drunken_F00l: VoyagerI: And for knowing the times
23:51… Eddie: Drunken_F00l got VAC-banned, his own fault.
23:51… @Drunken_F00l: Eddie: 100% agree
23:51… Userfz: Drunken_F00l... did the valve offered you to join them?
23:52… @Drunken_F00l: Userfz: No
23:52… ninja: hey fool, have you actually managed to talk to robin yet?
23:52… @Drunken_F00l: ninja: Yes, on the phone and on email
23:52… Silv3r: How speedcraft work anyway? Like what did you uncraft then? :/ Wouldn't you run out of items. Didn't they disable uncrafting metal?
23:52… @Drunken_F00l: Silv3r: I had a script to craft metals before they disabled it.
23:53… Nwks: Drunken_F00l: Is it possible to get the listing of the old times? Or will you post them somewhere? I'm just curious about the "timezone fairness".
23:53… @Drunken_F00l: Nwks: I am contemplating posting them
23:54… O_HAI_THER: Drunken_F00l: You should post the old times. Frankly, they deserve it for being lazy on the wrench dropping system.
23:54… @Drunken_F00l: O_HAI_THER: How about a video of me getting down to one of the times and then somebody in the server getting it.
23:54… @Drunken_F00l: counting down* that is
23:54… MaxOfS2D: Drunken_F00l: does the Valve staff know who's the leaker, and are they gonna fire him?
23:55… @Drunken_F00l: MaxOfS2D: They don't know and I have no intention of telling them who the leak is.
23:55… Destro: So is TF2items being shut down?
23:55… @Drunken_F00l: Destro: No, I answered this before.
23:55… EvilShadow777: Drunken_F00l, are the rumors true that you and Robin were dating at the park yesterday?
23:56… @Drunken_F00l: EvilShadow777: Who told you this
23:56… @Drunken_F00l: the times have changed but 74 was supposed to drop at Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:58:37 GMT
23:58… Destro: So if you knew about the leak f00l then why didnt you warn Robin first?
23:58… @Drunken_F00l: Destro: I should have
23:58… HerpDerp: Just one question Drunken_F00l, all times were predetermined, so were all the people who guessed the times privvy to the leak? or had people actually reverse engineered the prng?
23:59… @Drunken_F00l: HerpDerp: There were some lucky people who guessed the right time once or twice but I have no idea who else had the official times.
23:59… @Drunken_F00l: 75 was supposed to be dropped 01h:56m:57s (7017 seconds) after 74
23:59… @Drunken_F00l: but like i said
23:59… @Drunken_F00l: they changed the times
23:59… qazqazqaz: Drunken_F00l, did you buy this leak?
23:59… @Drunken_F00l: qazqazqaz: No
00:00… Day changed to Thursday, July 8th 2010.
23:59… gngbng: did Drunken_F00l recieve a human-given vac ban
00:00… @Drunken_F00l: gngbng: Yes and not the first
00:00… obiwanek: Drunken_F00l: is there any chance that you can be unbanned?
00:00… @Drunken_F00l: obiwanek: Doubt it. Robin didn't even want to unban if I told him who the leak was.
00:01… VoyagerI: How mad was Robin?
00:01… @Drunken_F00l: VoyagerI: He sounded dissapointed and angry but his tone was calm.
00:02… @Drunken_F00l: I don't know who chrisFPS is or why people are calling him my friend
00:03… exi: Drunken_F00l: What will happen to tf2items.com???
00:03… @Drunken_F00l: exi: I've said a million times tf2items.com is staying up
00:03… Zmathue: Drunken_F00l: how did they found out about the leaked times? did it have anything to do with the thread where you agreed with Ranma's time?
00:03… @Drunken_F00l: Zmathue: Robin checked the audit logs and saw I had crafted 7 times near one of the drop times (even though some of those were after a drop, but whatever)
00:04… @Drunken_F00l: whoever was updating this post
00:04… obiwanek: Drunken_F00l: make a official post somewhere and defend urself
00:04… @Drunken_F00l: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...postcount=1900
00:04… @Drunken_F00l: can you keep updating it
00:06… Beef-: Drunken_F00l: Why do you want ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ items that serve only an aesthetic purpose when you know valve are ♥♥♥♥♥♥s and take items seriously?
00:06… @Drunken_F00l: Beef-: Their shine is intoxicating
00:09… jake^: Drunken_f00l: why couldnt you use your powers for good not evil
00:09… @Drunken_F00l: jake^: Evil would have been selling drop times to premium subscribers.