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gb  ProtectMyBalls
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 08 Sep 2010, 22:53 
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Bartg wrote:
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Im guessing this is sort of a bump? !!

:demm: there needs to be more effort in manual balancing until we get the plugin working.

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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 08 Sep 2010, 22:57 
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I'm going to cut off this discussion. You either produce a workable config PER MAP, and post it here, or you stop posting in this topic, and thats the end of it.You can bitch and whine all you want, or you could fkin do something about it.
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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 08 Sep 2010, 23:04 
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Fair enough Saint, i want the same as you, but im not a code person at all, so unless i learn it i cant do anything practical other than just express my concerns. But as no one else is really interested in this or helping out, it pretty much makes my original post and point mute, so I give up.

Sorry if the thread turned annoying.

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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 08 Sep 2010, 23:06 
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[SpA]ProtectMyBalls wrote:
Fair enough Saint, i want the same as you, but im not a code person at all, so unless i learn it i cant do anything practical other than just express my concerns. But as no one else is really interested in this or helping out, it pretty much makes my original post and point mute, so I give up.

Sorry if the thread turned annoying.
It doesn't require any coding. I pasted the configuration on the plugin a few pages back. All you need to do is carefully read trough the descriptions are figure out what the best value's would be.
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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 02:16 
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Ones posted on 2nd page aren't valid ?
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nl  [SpA]Unity
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 10:56 
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Well it isnt really stacked with Spa's it's almost equally.
Reds have just better regulars...

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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 11:05 
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Bartg wrote:
Ones posted on 2nd page aren't valid ?
I could stick em up, but have they been reviewed properly?
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nl  Nonoice
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 11:35 
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They have been discussed amended by different ppl.
In the end it needs on-line tweaking: Just slap it on the server and see what happens.

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nl  [SpA]SaintK
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 11:40 
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ok, so we take scatters config as final?

If i implement it tonight you'll have to keep a close eye out for it to see if everything works properly.
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nl  Nonoice
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 11:43 
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Scatter made a config for each map type.
So it is not a single script but a set to put up.
(just the make sure the correct post is reverenced.)

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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 14:55 
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Lets give it a go :)

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nl  annarack
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 16:30 
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Do it

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gb  [SpA]Scatterbrain
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 16:47 
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yeah. configs are pretty good (well, goldrush isn't quite top-notch, but we could have to rebalance them anyway) and definately better than nothing. guess you just missed the categories saint :ugly: so go ahead!

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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 17:41 
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These are the cfg's which will be executed at mapchange per type of map (each map has a own cfg file, i will point the map cfg files to load the correct scramble cfg's).

I made 2 small changes;
- Public voting is disabled (we don't permit any voting on our servers at all, permanently)
- Admin menu integration disabled (the plugin should be able to do its work fully automatic without any admin's manually calling a scramble)

One thing i don't get is that in the posted CFG's you protect the top 5 of each team from being scrambled. I think that's mostly the part of players who are causing the unbalance.

I've attached the CFG's, if you want a change, download the CFG, edit it, and re-attach it.


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scramble_payload_other.cfg [8.07 KiB]
Downloaded 70 times
scramble_main.cfg [245 Bytes]
Downloaded 88 times
scramble_gold_dust.cfg [8.31 KiB]
Downloaded 68 times
scramble_cp_ctf.cfg [8.31 KiB]
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gb  [SpA]Scatterbrain
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 17:54 
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
One thing i don't get is that in the posted CFG's you protect the top 5 of each team from being scrambled. I think that's mostly the part of players who are causing the unbalance.
ah... did i? didn't mean to anyway, feel free to change it if you want/haven't already.

also:
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[SpA]Saint K.: ok, scramble plugin is loaded, settings should be in effect next mapchange
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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
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[SpA]Scatterbrain wrote:
[SpA]SaintK wrote:
One thing i don't get is that in the posted CFG's you protect the top 5 of each team from being scrambled. I think that's mostly the part of players who are causing the unbalance.
ah... did i? didn't mean to anyway, feel free to change it if you want/haven't already.

also:
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[SpA]Saint K.: ok, scramble plugin is loaded, settings should be in effect next mapchange
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I'm open for suggestions to a new value :)
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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 17:56 
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didn't intend for it to be there at all, so 0 should be fine ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 18:06 
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[SpA]Scatterbrain wrote:
didn't intend for it to be there at all, so 0 should be fine ;)
Done, should be done next mapchange.
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nl  [SpA]SaintK
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 01 Oct 2010, 17:29 
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We had to disable the scramble plugin due to new bugs introduced with last nights update. We'll be researching the issue and will come up with a solution as soon as possible.
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gb  ProtectMyBalls
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 01 Oct 2010, 17:39 
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
We had to disable the scramble plugin due to new bugs introduced with last nights update. We'll be researching the issue and will come up with a solution as soon as possible.
Cool saint, hopefully us admins will try and manually balance the games as best as possible :)

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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 01 Oct 2010, 18:43 
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Scramble should be fixed.
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pl  Bartg
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 03 Oct 2010, 21:15 
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Can you try the new valve scrambler ? That plugin which is on servers only makes things worse, it usually takes away and puts sniper, spies and engis in one team, and medics heavies in the other :| And usually after scramble one team gets steamrolled very badly.
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gb  [SpA]Scatterbrain
 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 03 Oct 2010, 21:47 
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i think it's worth a shot. we could spend forever fiddling with the plugin, but it would still be funny; valve might just have made it good.

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 Post subject: Re: Scramble
PostPosted: 03 Oct 2010, 21:50 
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Cook up some per map settings for it.
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