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Author:  Planitia [ 25 Dec 2010, 05:02 ]
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So i thought i would post here rather than the Minecraft general which is where i turtle.

Anyway, Almost 2 years ago i used Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex (I think) for about 3 months. I was able to do so much on there and at the same time so little.

Gaming was a no go zone due to not only wine being crap but also my hardware was VERY crap (The details require another entire thread and discussion)

Now that i have discovered developments in Wine and more developments in programs being made available for Linux i am considering my return to Linux. Also i have experienced a painful 2 years from not having access to Terminal. M$DOS dosen't do it for me. Also many hardware items i used didn't have Linux support (none of which i use now).

I don't game as much anymore due to work/study and now steam works through wine flawlessly so that is a huge plus.

ATM i m about 60% going to linux 40% staying with M$.

I will go over when i reach 80%. START!

PS. I will go back to Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meercat. So don't recommend any other systems.
Author:  Rico_Faraguez [ 25 Dec 2010, 05:12 ]
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The new Ubuntu is really pretty, even the installation is!!!

Now, Linux is an excellent operating system, but in order for it to do what you want it to do, you have to have patience, soft cuddly clothes(for those awesome long nights of sitting in front of the computer, pulling hair ^^), and basic knowledge of things(which you can get from Google).

With regards to wine... My friend and I spent 7 hours yesterday configuring wine to optimally work with my desktop. Wine works very well, but only of you spend the time to make it work XD. After it fully worked, we were able to play all games on High settings with BETTER framerates than in windows :).

If you have the patience to use Linux, I'd reccomend it XD. But SOOO many people get WAYYYY to frusterated and quit!

And YAY for debian users! =D
Author:  Planitia [ 25 Dec 2010, 05:18 ]
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As i said before. I used it for 3 months and had it running REALLY well.

Wine was a pain most of the time and i didn't use it. But i know most of the commands/setting on linux so im highly considering moving.

And thatks for reminding me it was Debian XD i forgot which one it was.

do you still use aptget install "appname" in terminal?
Author:  Rico_Faraguez [ 25 Dec 2010, 05:24 ]
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Yup, well its apt-get but yeahhh, just remember to have root permissions when you run it by saying sudo before it! XD

If you forget something too, use man first!!!

God, I'm such a nerd... XD
Author:  Planitia [ 25 Dec 2010, 05:37 ]
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I never had to use sudo cause i logged into root when i logged in. I had my own account but in terminal i logged into and use it as ROOT instead of my account. That way i didn't have to use sudo every time or enter a password every time.
Author:  Lim-Dul [ 25 Dec 2010, 10:52 ]
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If you're not a Linux expert go with Linux Mint instead of vanilla Ubuntu. Mint is Ubuntu-based with 100% repo compatibility but doesn't care about Ubuntu's lofty "open source only" ideals and comes with all proprietary codecs, drivers and whatnot pre-installed, so it runs perfectly fine out-of-the-box in most cases and requires only minimal initial setup.

http://www.linuxmint.com/
Author:  Planitia [ 25 Dec 2010, 11:58 ]
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Nah thats for shitcunts. I know how to use linux and i enjoy setting up and trouble shooting anyway.

Not my first time on linux anyway.
Author:  [SpA]SaintK [ 25 Dec 2010, 12:41 ]
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Linux mint is a good one
Author:  Capi [ 25 Dec 2010, 13:07 ]
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is mint pretty much updated every time ubuntu updates to the next version?

I installed the ubuntu 10.04 LTR on my hp but i always had issues with proprietary drivers and the difficulty of installing such simple things. I know I wont have this problem if I go with building a desktop for my next purchase but should I roll with mint anyway instead of ubuntu? What does ubuntu have that mint doesnt? Are there any disadvantages to using mint as opposed to ubuntu?
sorry for all the questions, but its 4am and my googlemana is depleted :/

@Rico
dont worry hun, I know exactly what youre talking about. :/
My solution is to hide it the best I can whenever I step out the door and throw up facebook to block specialattack and terminal or cmd from sight when stupid boys are over :roll:
Planitia wrote:
Nah thats for shitcunts. I know how to use linux and i enjoy setting up and trouble shooting anyway.

Not my first time on linux anyway.
babe, your absolutely insane.
[SpA]Rico_Faraguez wrote:
The new Ubuntu is really pretty, even the installation is!!!
iknow! ^^
like a mac and linux did it hot and sweaty one night, hm?
and the product was some sort of matte, transparent, jello-ey-jiggly substance...





edit: PlanPlan, in my opinion, you should always dual-boot Windows. That's just my opinion. Start using linux again. It'll make you smarter, but always keep Windows handy. You never know when you'll need it.
Author:  Planitia [ 25 Dec 2010, 13:26 ]
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I was fine without it for 3 months. If i need it i have other computers in the house.

I'll install it on Thursday when i have money to buy 4TB worth of HDD :ugly:
Author:  Capi [ 25 Dec 2010, 16:01 ]
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what the hell do you need 4 terabytes of storage for? ._.

save a 100gigs for windows on secondary boot... o_O
weirdo...
Author:  Planitia [ 25 Dec 2010, 16:05 ]
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I'm NOT dualbooting. I don't see the point. i can use linux standalone just fine.

And im gonna get 2tb for now.
Author:  Lim-Dul [ 25 Dec 2010, 16:12 ]
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@Capi - there are absolutely zero disadvantages to using Mint. Mint has EVERYTHING Ubuntu has and much more - it also has its own set of tools making certain things easier. Every single solution you'll find for Ubuntu will work for Mint too and they use the same software repositories too.

The only reason someone would want to use Ubuntu over Mint is if they really wanted full control over what's installed on their system initially of if they were one of these "Open Source or die" dickheads whom I hate. If you're insistent you can even configure Mint to "revert" it to Ubuntu, which is why I don't understand Planitia's comment about "shitcunts". If Mint is for shitcunts then Ubuntu is for retards who think that making things more difficult in the name of useless lofty ideals makes them somehow better than others. And hey, Ubuntu was a major step in making a truly user-friendly Linux already - but only ONE step, other distros that take it even further and insist on being much more compatible with Windows (from the UI to the software compatibility layers) out of the box are the way to go.
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I don't see the point.
Because there are SOOO many games on Linux, AMIRITE? And most open source alternatives to proprietary programs are "alternatives" only in their authors' minds.
Author:  Planitia [ 25 Dec 2010, 16:43 ]
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Any game i will want to play can be run on Linux with very little problems. I don't like booting a different OS just to play games. If it doesn't work/isn't supported for Linux then i wont play it.

I'm not an opensource or die dickhead i just like the full control. I have no problem with commercial software. I just have a problem with insane software that doesn't provide free versions for educational use. If i bought all of the software i use i would have less money than i do now which is 3cents. I actually personally prefer open office over M$office not because it's free but because it's simply better.

Linux Mint is a good idea for Linux beginners too. I started with Kubuntu and then realised i hated KDE.

Anyway the reason i prefer Ubuntu over mint is because i like to install things as i need them. If i goto open a file and it wont work it's a line in terminal to get it going. I don;t like using a computer with software set up already. Like when you buy a computer from... A department store and it has Norton and 500 other shitty pieces of software you will never use.
Author:  Rico_Faraguez [ 25 Dec 2010, 22:45 ]
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Capi wrote:
@Rico
dont worry hun, I know exactly what youre talking about. :/
My solution is to hide it the best I can whenever I step out the door and throw up facebook to block specialattack and terminal or cmd from sight when stupid boys are over :roll:
[SpA]Rico_Faraguez wrote:
The new Ubuntu is really pretty, even the installation is!!!
iknow! ^^
like a mac and linux did it hot and sweaty one night, hm?
and the product was some sort of matte, transparent, jello-ey-jiggly substance...
OMG Capi... I LOVE you =D ^^

I usually leave up my terminal with some random process running, so when people come over they are like "WTF" XD

And I totally agree, the new ubuntu is like the perfect baby of Mac OS X and linux, hehehe.
Author:  Capi [ 27 Dec 2010, 03:56 ]
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[SpA]Rico_Faraguez wrote:
I usually leave up my terminal with some random process running, so when people come over they are like "WTF" XD

And I totally agree, the new ubuntu is like the perfect baby of Mac OS X and linux, hehehe.
People lose it when they see beryl compiz's jello windows :)

i pop up terminal with some tranparency and jiggle it all over the damn place and theyre like, "whoa :O"
:D!

@limbo, my mommas laptop was actually having some gma 9xx issues on windows 7 today, so i installed mint on a whim after XP failed me with a hal.dll error and i remembered this thread.

I can vouch for what your saying. Installed so minty fresh, the absense of broadcomm wireless nonsense was refreshing :3 and im noticing cooler, better, and more stable performance than i have ever seen out of this poor thing. It actually plays games and kept me entertained for a while, and it looks fantastic by default.

As for PlanPlans; if you think its a good idea to have 4 terabytes of space, main linux, and not save a partition for windows 7 and some diagnostic tools, then youre an absolute retard... and that came from a girl, so you might wanna actually check yourself on that. mkay? ;j
Author:  Planitia [ 27 Dec 2010, 04:16 ]
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Capi wrote:
As for PlanPlans; if you think its a good idea to have 4 terabytes of space, main linux, and not save a partition for windows 7 and some diagnostic tools, then youre an absolute retard... and that came from a girl, so you might wanna actually check yourself on that. mkay? ;j
I'll have windows 7 somewhere. Just not connected to the computer. I have several other computers and i'll have it on a HDD anyway.
Author:  [SpA]ArchLurker_Chad [ 28 Dec 2010, 11:42 ]
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Reading this thread makes me want to install linux again.
Especially this part:
[SpA]Rico_Faraguez wrote:
After it fully worked, we were able to play all games on High settings with BETTER framerates than in windows :)
but then again there's the other side of the coin ><
[SpA]Rico_Faraguez wrote:
With regards to wine... My friend and I spent 7 hours yesterday configuring wine to optimally work with my desktop. Wine works very well, but only of you spend the time to make it work XD.
I'm not sure I got the patience though :(
Author:  Planitia [ 28 Dec 2010, 11:47 ]
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[SpA]ArchLurker_Chad wrote:
Reading this thread makes me want to install linux again.
Especially this part:
[SpA]Rico_Faraguez wrote:
After it fully worked, we were able to play all games on High settings with BETTER framerates than in windows :)
but then again there's the other side of the coin ><
[SpA]Rico_Faraguez wrote:
With regards to wine... My friend and I spent 7 hours yesterday configuring wine to optimally work with my desktop. Wine works very well, but only of you spend the time to make it work XD.
I'm not sure I got the patience though :(
It's worth it.


And whoever voted to keep windows GTFO of life.
Author:  [SpA]Relentless [ 29 Dec 2010, 14:09 ]
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Planitia wrote:
And whoever voted to keep windows GTFO of life.
You asked for honest, objective opinion of others whether you should keep windows or not. You're not basically against windows (why else would you insist on 80% positive arguments for linux to switch again?) yet you insult the people that favor it.
In reality all you wanted is a pat on the back from people who tell you how linux is oh-so-awesome. You've decided already, so please stop wasting our time.
Author:  [SpA]Minimoose! [ 29 Dec 2010, 14:39 ]
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Author:  Planitia [ 29 Dec 2010, 14:43 ]
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[SpA]Relentless wrote:
Planitia wrote:
And whoever voted to keep windows GTFO of life.
You asked for honest, objective opinion of others whether you should keep windows or not. You're not basically against windows (why else would you insist on 80% positive arguments for linux to switch again?) yet you insult the people that favor it.
In reality all you wanted is a pat on the back from people who tell you how linux is oh-so-awesome. You've decided already, so please stop wasting our time.
You're right, I guess I forgot after I had made up my mind.
The post was never really to make up my mind I guess it was more for me to see what people thought of Linux. Anyway I put the wrong title on it with the wrong attitude for the wrong reason.
Author:  [SpA]gibboss28 [ 29 Dec 2010, 15:37 ]
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[SpA]Relentless wrote:
Planitia wrote:
And whoever voted to keep windows GTFO of life.
You asked for honest, objective opinion of others whether you should keep windows or not. You're not basically against windows (why else would you insist on 80% positive arguments for linux to switch again?) yet you insult the people that favor it.
In reality all you wanted is a pat on the back from people who tell you how linux is oh-so-awesome. You've decided already, so please stop wasting our time.
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