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[SpA]SaintK
 Post subject: Re: Germany Vs. England
PostPosted: 06 Jul 2010, 23:42 
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If its a shot at the goal, it can't be offside can it?
Yes it can, if the player being offside is blocking the keepers vision of the ball.
Which was the case here, I believe.
Nope it wasn't, check the camera angle here: http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/1027901 ... latie.html , the keeper is not blocked by any dutch player.
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 Post subject: Re: Germany Vs. England
PostPosted: 06 Jul 2010, 23:43 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offside_(a ... _football)

he was involved in the play by attempting to attack the ball from an offside position, hence its offside. (it can also be construed as being near active play/goalkeeper to gain an advantage/distract)

dont get me wrong, i hate uruguay for knocking out ghana by cheating

I just wish the officials in this world cup had been anywhere near at a reasonable level, every game has had at least 1 large error which effects the game ( be it a red card, multiple yellows, a free kick, a penalty given etc etc)
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 Post subject: Re: Germany Vs. England
PostPosted: 06 Jul 2010, 23:47 
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I saw that scene being analysed by Oliver Kahn, and he should know it tbh. :P
You can see on the footage that the keeper actually stops for a second, just before the ball was about to touch the player being offside, before jumping at the ball again.
Thus meaning his vision was obstructed by the player, hence offside.

Edit: Obviously Saint, I'm talking about a different goal than yours, lol. :P

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 Post subject: Re: Germany Vs. England
PostPosted: 06 Jul 2010, 23:52 
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[SpA]Migu wrote:
I saw that scene being analysed by Oliver Kahn, and he should know it tbh. :P
You can see on the footage that the keeper actually stops for a second, just before the ball was about to touch the player being offside, before jumping at the ball again.
Thus meaning his vision was obstructed by the player, hence offside.

Edit: Obviously Saint, I'm talking about a different goal than yours, lol. :P
You mean the second one don't you ?
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PostPosted: 06 Jul 2010, 23:59 
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
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I saw that scene being analysed by Oliver Kahn, and he should know it tbh. :P
You can see on the footage that the keeper actually stops for a second, just before the ball was about to touch the player being offside, before jumping at the ball again.
Thus meaning his vision was obstructed by the player, hence offside.

Edit: Obviously Saint, I'm talking about a different goal than yours, lol. :P
You mean the second one don't you ?
Yes. Sry, for any confusion. :P

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 Post subject: Re: Germany Vs. England
PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 00:05 
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[SpA]Migu wrote:
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You mean the second one don't you ?
Yes. Sry, for any confusion. :P
I meant the same :P
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 Post subject: Re: Germany Vs. England
PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 00:20 
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oh, and that kick in the face should have been red.
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PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 00:23 
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oh, and that kick in the face should have been red.
Yep - I always saw bicycle kicks as a last resort measure when there are players around since they are very dangerous.

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PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 00:28 
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If he played for the ball with a reasonable chance to get it/ make contact ( i.e. a 50/50 ball) then its a fair attempt.


I didnt see it however as I didnt start watching the match till 30ish
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PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 01:05 
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torres :|

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 Post subject: Re: Germany Vs. England
PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 04:40 
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An interesting read about the World cup ball and why this world cup has been poor in footballing quality


http://www.docshare.com/doc/223643/CJ-M ... ll-July-20
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[SpA]Migu
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PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 08:29 
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[SpA]Greasy_greabo wrote:
An interesting read about the World cup ball and why this world cup has been poor in footballing quality


http://www.docshare.com/doc/223643/CJ-M ... ll-July-20
Nice find, and good read.
But yeah, I think it was pretty much like this every world cup...There are always people complaining about the ball.
Fact is, apart from very few occasions, the "joga bonito" football is nowhere to be found this time, and that is quite sad. :|

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PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 09:10 
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http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/1028231 ... pats_.html (has a broken jaw from what we gather from the current newsitems he's gonna play the finals)
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I found the moaning about the ball quite comical, especially in England. Germany and France both trained with the ball, and England were offered it, but turned it down due to the Nike sponsorship deal. Aw, Football Commercialism at it's best; wish they would tell more English people that so they would rule that out as an excuse.

Plus they should all get a 90% pay cut to and give the money to cancer research.

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PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 11:51 
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[SpA]Greasy_greabo wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offside_(a ... _football)

he was involved in the play by attempting to attack the ball from an offside position, hence its offside. (it can also be construed as being near active play/goalkeeper to gain an advantage/distract)
Quite interesting, I didn't know half the stuff written there ^^

I agree with Greasy now.

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 Post subject: Re: Germany Vs. England
PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 22:23 
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I'm sorry to tell you Germans, but all hope is lost for you.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... m-Low.html
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! PAUL DID IT AGAIN! 0_o

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PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 22:29 
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PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 23:28 
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ZE germans are kaputt :4
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 Post subject: Re: Germany Vs. England
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crap.

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PostPosted: 07 Jul 2010, 23:58 
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SPAAAAAAIN!!!! :4 :4 :4

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PostPosted: 08 Jul 2010, 00:59 
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I'm bloody awful at predicting scores. So from now on, I will say the opposite of what I think will happen.

Spain Vs. Holland in the final. :87
Haha. Nice to know that I can get it right, by purposefully being wrong. Or right, as the case may be. :P

OK, guess I'll do it again then. Holland to win World Cup 2010! :wink:

Ditch just sent me this. It's harsh, but funny at the same time. :ugly:

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PostPosted: 08 Jul 2010, 07:39 
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New German superhit after Lena Meyer-Landrut's "Satellite": '54 '74 '90 2014 by Sportfreunde Stiller.

You heard it here first, folks.

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PostPosted: 08 Jul 2010, 07:59 
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[SpA]DrMcMoist wrote:

Ditch just sent me this. It's harsh, but funny at the same time. :ugly:

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Neah it's not harsh it even amused Schweinsteiger a bit :mrgreen:
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PostPosted: 08 Jul 2010, 08:20 
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Spain won.... They did a good game.... But we can make it 2014 ;) :4

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Spain won.... They did a good game.... But we can make it 2014 ;) :4
omg you sound like english people!

lol i hate getting told i have no national pride, its a fucking football game!

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Well, there's nothing wrong with supporting your home country - but indeed saying "we" won, or "we" lost is kinda stupid. What the fuck did you do?

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Well, there's nothing wrong with supporting your home country - but indeed saying "we" won, or "we" lost is kinda stupid. What the fuck did you do?
Being born with a specific passport, mofo!
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Well, there's nothing wrong with supporting your home country - but indeed saying "we" won, or "we" lost is kinda stupid. What the fuck did you do?
Totally agree, my housemates say it, and im like, 'ur fat ass was sat on the sofa watching it,...'

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PostPosted: 08 Jul 2010, 16:11 
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Yeah, I really don't understand how people can support a football team with such faith and link it to the country like it actually matters, bit weird 8)

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PostPosted: 08 Jul 2010, 16:22 
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its funny how quickly the country turns on them too... lol no pressure or anything! just win the game on 30 million people will try and hunt you down for ruining it for them... and their pint...

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