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 Post subject: Re: Someones Naughty
PostPosted: 28 Nov 2010, 22:29 
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Destoned wrote:
the point of these games is to have fun, while doing no harm to others to hinder their experience on the game.
We were ALL having fun until junco came, at which point we left.

Admin abuse? by having fun, in a game? Really? OK Pete.
Admin griefing? we did not intentionally cause anyone grief,
and if its not the 10 blocks he had to clean, then theres nothing to complain about
Griefing: Because you were destroying stuff that you did not build, as simple as that.

Abuse: You seem to think you can do this because you have a high rank, if you saw 10 guests placing lava and cuboiding someone else's town (If they could) you would have banned them for griefing.

And there IS something to complain about, see the other 2 points.

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 Post subject: Re: Someones Naughty
PostPosted: 28 Nov 2010, 22:40 
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Destoned wrote:
the point of these games is to have fun, while doing no harm to others to hinder their experience on the game.
You hindered Junco's experience of the game by preventing him from working on his town, ignoring him, finding his displeasure quite humurous and then bodging a so called "clean-up".


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 Post subject: Re: Someones Naughty
PostPosted: 28 Nov 2010, 22:41 
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Smokeybacon wrote:
Destoned wrote:
the point of these games is to have fun, while doing no harm to others to hinder their experience on the game.
You hindered Junco's experience of the game by preventing him from working on his town, ignoring him, finding his displeasure quite humurous and then bodging a so called "clean-up".
Let me direct you to:
[SpA]Hafnium wrote:
Actually, as soon as you came on and told us to gtfo, we moved to a pumpkin patch. It just takes a while for a group of 8-10 people to coordinate a move like that.

I was under the impression that the cuboids were fixed with /undo, which reverts the land to EXACTLY how it was, and I'm in your sand thing right now and it looks as if all is well.

If there is any grief in any town, describe it here and I will do my best to coordinate a clean up. If however, you are just upset that we were fooling around in your massive flat sandy area, lighten up.

If we were in the way of your building, the proper procedure is not to tell us to gtfo. The right thing to do would be something along the lines of "Guys, I'm trying to mark of plots here, can you move this party somewhere else? Thanks." If that failed, you could have contacted one of the admins that were on and explained, and I would have forcibly moved the party elsewhere. You could also have come on mumble and made MS Sam tell us, or if you have a mic, tell us yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: Someones Naughty
PostPosted: 28 Nov 2010, 22:45 
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PetePorty wrote:
Griefing: Because you were destroying stuff that you did not build, as simple as that.

Abuse: You seem to think you can do this because you have a high rank, if you saw 10 guests placing lava and cuboiding someone else's town (If they could) you would have banned them for griefing.

And there IS something to complain about, see the other 2 points.
Actually we destoryed nothing, Me and hafnium did place a few lava blocks and cuboids. Which we DID remove. We cannot speak for everyone else. But nothing we did caused any damage.
Smokeybacon wrote:
You hindered Junco's experience of the game by preventing him from working on his town, ignoring him, finding his displeasure quite humurous and then bodging a so called "clean-up".
When junco came on, i began removing everything i could see, nothing that me and hafnium created. This isnt a complaint about griefing. Its a personal assault

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 Post subject: Re: Someones Naughty
PostPosted: 28 Nov 2010, 22:50 
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Uh, Destoned, I think Pando was joking.

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 Post subject: Re: Someones Naughty
PostPosted: 28 Nov 2010, 22:57 
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A personal assault? Why would have anything against you guys? Can't you just appreciate that this was bound to anoy people?

Anyway this is going nowhere fast, and points are being disregarded. If people are going to believe this as some sort of personal assault, then well, there's no resolve in sight. I'm just glad that this wont be happening again.


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 Post subject: Re: Someones Naughty
PostPosted: 28 Nov 2010, 22:59 
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Yes, yes I was joking, I was joking about the pathetic excuses admins are giving for griefing and annoying people and then laugh about it. You were wrong, no matter how much you try to prove otherwise.

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 Post subject: Re: Someones Naughty
PostPosted: 28 Nov 2010, 23:00 
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Pandorum wrote:
Yes, yes I was joking, I was joking about the pathetic excuses admins are giving for griefing and annoying people and then laugh about it. You were wrong, no matter how much you try to prove otherwise.
Thanks God I'm not the only one saying this stuff...

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 Post subject: Re: Someones Naughty
PostPosted: 28 Nov 2010, 23:05 
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The thing here is guys.... STFU !!!!

You guys are argueing over nothing, you do know that right? Its done and over with. Hafnium is getting the flak, because he is the only one responding. He isn't the sole purpetrator here.

Being admins means having responsibility. You don't see me kicking and banning people, while cheating or hacking myself in games now do you? When you do something that isn't allowed it isn't OWK!

And there is also something called overreacting. Now the admins here are at FAULT. Accept it. Say Sorry.

REQUEST FUCKING LOCK!

Discussion /end

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 Post subject: Re: Someones Naughty
PostPosted: 29 Nov 2010, 00:48 
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And since people never seem shut up until I say something, lemme update my stance on that:

I didn't realize the scope of what was going on on the server and the amount of damage that has been done.
Incidents like these will NOT be tolerated in the future. If you want to have a place to mess around go Singleplayer or find a DISTANT area on the map and even then you will have to clean up after yourselves - I don't want to see 100 block wide TNT holes everywhere.
Shit like this is the exact reason why I had to ban some runes on the server including i.e. Faith.

SMP is an unstable environment where it is hard to build things but easy to destroy them. Backups are unreliable and the server can crash at any point.

This really isn't the place to "test things", which is exactly the reason why I install any plugins on the SMP test server FIRST and learn their functionality to the fullest before even attempting to use a command publicly.

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