Hey there. I play TF2 often on your fine server(s) and I've noticed that people really don't dig the Granary. I know I don't. I wouldn't bring this up usually it's just it seems everytime it comes rolling around a load of people jump ship. Hell, me and Chim Richels were playing the other night and the server died a death. I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass. I just hate the Granary is all

i've never noticed what you described, actually granary is my favourite map...
i think it's pretty well balanced, the only class that's a bit handicapped is the sniper, but that's fine by me.

compared to 2fort, granary is 1000-times better. every time 2fort comes on, the good, teamplaying, regular players leave and the non-communication noobs join and the game is renamed to 'team deathmatch'.

since we have too few maps anyways, i'm not for removing anyone of those, but if you really want to slim down the mapcycle, 2fort is the first to go.

I agree with demm... 2fort sux

ive noticed before that people left for granary but aint been happening anylonger, i think personally its a good map. where teamplay must be used.
2fort is also a pretty good map but the teams camping too much on each site, its either too much snipers or engineers tbh.

he is so totally right...if 2fort would be played with real teamwork...it would be great like granary

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Teamwork/lack of teamwork makes/breaks the game. Ambiguity ftw. I ususally whimper when 2fort is about to start but I had one of the best matches evar on it a couple of days ago (remember medic-pwnage, noxious?)

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I've ubered demm once at granary as medic and he also did the same. It was so enjoying
Sometimes when you are tired of the "proper" way to play tf2 you can do such funny things

granary is awesome

Dude, maybe you're like me in the first of my TF2 days; i REALLY hated that map. But thew days after i realized why; I was allways on the loosing team in that map, maybe because i was in it, i dunno. But i was ALWAYS loosing..

(But now i am the UBERMENSCH so i always win ) And i love the map... i love all of 'em. Even 2fort!
I love ubering those sentrys down with my ubered pyro and just feel the power of pwning a noob.

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I was actually playing that game. I wasn't having a good one though, I've been trying to play as the Spy a lot with mixed results. I like your style though Magisk, you're all about the teamwork and it really shows when you're playing. Mainly cause your side wins and you're at the top. You're a good guy though and people seem to get that. It's probably why they listen to you and actually try to play as a team

Yeah I do seem to be on the losing side on the map I'm sorry to say. I tried to play as a Medic today with these guys who either wouldn't protect me or were just plain stupid. After you've watched the tenth guy get blown up by the same sentry gun you kinda just want to go it alone. I used to play as a Heavy a lot but Medic envy was really getting me down. I used to see other Heavies with Medic's and it broke my heart. So I'm exploring other classes now

2fort and granary are mostly full.
But badlands is mostly empty.
Think about it.

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2fort definitely goes before Granary...

I've nothing against Granary. it all depends on how well your team works together. A couple of good medic/heavy combo's (even 1) can see a team through to victory. The same goes for 2fort, although it is my least favorite map. Remember kids, its called Team Fortress for a reason..

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Yeah maybe I should get Selfish Frag Whore Fortress a.k.a Unreal Tournament 2008

Granary is a good map but, IMHO, suffers the same problems as Badlands in so far as the team that caps the centre point can be hard to push back. This obviously is massively dependent on the players present and whether they can work together or not. Having 12 players, even good ones, who refuse to work together means instant pwnage by the other team on both those maps. Without a good, unified attacking front backed up with 2-3 engies and a couple of medics, all wanting to push forward and not just fall back and rack up kills you have no chance.

It's the issue that playing on a pub TF2 server presents: sometimes you just have shit matches

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