Ok they only ting agreed (well not really but let's use that word) is the need for the Server's spawn to be moved to Bedlam. This can be done but as it will probably have to be me doing it it will have to wait.
In the meantime, everyone who wants to play on this server will need to put their efforts into rethinking the basic working of this server. Stop rattling on about adding things, about having Hunger Games and about having a new server. It is just not helpful. Concentrate on the core ideas:
- Residence: do you want it? How should it work?
- Bedlam: should it still be the free for all it is now? How else should it work? What permissions will guests get?
- Teleporting/travel. Both Bedlam and Hub still need better ways of traversing them. DO you want to go as far as having something like Babel back? Reduced cool-down on /home or /spawn? You want a smaller teleport network? Where will they be and why? Should the commands (home/spawn etc) be timer based or chargeable? Both?
- What will be used as the new Spawn in Bedlam? Spawn City is staying in Hub and can be expanded with more facilities (Citizens has been back for months as I told everyone but no one bothered to put it back in)
- Do you still want the AcceptRules plugin? If so, does it happen in Bedlam or Hub? If not, how else will you control/educate the new guys?
- Economy - tied into the Residence issues: what is it for? Is it doing its job? is earning money to pay rent to protect your stuff fun? Do you want other things to spend the money on? If so what?
- Theme Zones - are they DOA or still worthy trying? If they are worth trying then decide exactly how they work.
And that is just the stuff I though of in 5 minutes before I had my breakfast.
No one is going to decide this for you. I tried that and all I got was a migraine. The people who use this server need to say what they want, what kind of experience they want. Think of it from all angles; as a player and as an OP. What do you want to do, what rules should there be, how would you police those rules as Admin. Post ideas here or start new threads - I don't care - but you have to get this done or SMP will be over.
So let's begin the the whole talk about the server shall we.. Indeed we shouldn't be rambling about adding things but rather concentrate on the core and fixing the core first.
--Residence: As it is now I have nothing to object it, this is, people which are above Registered and Registered itself can make residences, but i kind of remember this one thing we used to have on the residences, this is, for each rank we would have a certain amount of space available ( if i'm being understood ), of course if people would want to build something big which is not in the amount of space available for them to res then they should apply for the build they are about to do and then some admin would res the area and he could build then .. It's somewhat that .. Oh and for builds that are ''admin'' related, well these ones we wouldn't need any kind of permission or anything ( i'm talking about things such as AdminValley, Leo's market, and others which i cant remember now ) .. So to put it simply, Yes I personally do want to keep residences BUT they should work in relation to the rank each person has, ans if there are troubles concerning the amount of space available they can ask an admin if they can res it for them and then put it on their name ( so that they are the ones paying it and not the admin itself ) or he could apply for a larger space in the forums.. This, I personally think, would benefit in a more organized and a more controlled smp
--Bedlam: Bedlam.. well.. this will be discussed for ever and ever but oh well, i'll try and state out some of my ideas before you people kill me with your answers :p .. So, for me Bedlam should definitively be a '' free zone '' or whatever you might want to call it, It provides a certain kind of freedom that we dont have in Hub and also a kind of evilness and that i cant deny, I know people might arguably say that people in bedlam often times get griefed or robbed or killed or whatever.. I sometimes think if those people read the rules and accept them why cant they read the signs that say specifically that bedlam is pvp, grief is allowed and there are no such things as protections .. oh well, but im not the person to be judging the stupidity of those .. How it should work ? Hm.. well, i think (at least atm) that Bedlam should work as a place that if you want to get rid of the rules that are in Hub, you should go to Bedlam, I think that if you want pvp and such outside of Hub you should go to Bedlam and fight it out :p .. In Bedlam we wont have things such as residences, or lock chest abillity or things like that because in the end they would only cause trouble as we saw in the previous posts in which we discussed this .. Well, my head hurts just thinking of bedlam so im going to leave this kinda open because i cant really say much more then i said before ..
--Teleporting/travel .. I do not want to have something like babel back, ofc it was very useful and such , and ofc i really liked it but i think that we dont need babel back. I know what im about to say might not be everyone's opinion but here i go, i think that the reduced cool down on /home or /spawn might not be such a bad idea although i also think that people would without doubt abuse this and be constantly teleporting .. which is why i cant be sure on whether reduced cooldown is a good thing or not .. I still think that these commands ( /home and /spawn ) should be time based but i cant really say i deny a chargeable function since i dont really know how we would recharge it, if someone could state out a potentially good way to charge then yes I wouldnt mind having chargeable and time based /home and /spawn .. Well, the teleport network, as it is now we have the boats which are scattered around the world, it is somewhat good , but ofc we can have more boats to other places .. When you say smaller teleport network , you mean less ''portals''/boats or a smaller place where the portals/boats are located ? .. I dont know if youre trying to say a more centered teleport network by saying '' a smaller teleport network '' ..
--The new Spawn in Bedlam i really do not have the slightest idea on what it can be or which spawn will be used .. At the moment i really cant find something in my mind to answer this :p
--The accept rules plugin.. well i do want it to stay as it is but i also want something else with it, although this might be hard as hell or even impossible, which is having an Op guiding that person till Bedlam and on the way explaining some things he can and cannot do ( such as applying for registered on the forums, building res is only on Hub, such and such ).. Well it would be in Bedlam since we're ( or atleast as you said '' is the need for the Server's spawn to be moved to Bedlam '' ) going to have the spawn there :p but if we didnt have the spawn in bedlam then we would have that Op guiding him ( the player ) to bedlam while explaining some things, ofc we can also have an Op helping out a player even if it is in Bedlam .. As i was thinking of these things i remembered the old spawn we used to have, Iron city, in which we had a sign board full of rules and such, that wouldnt be that bad of an idea, although not every will see it at least some will :p ..
--Economy.. which is pretty much dead ( in terms of the stalls ), and dont go saying that this or that player stills uses it frequently because that would be a small number against the whole lot of players on the server .. I personally only used economy plugin sometimes but the result, well wasnt anything i didnt expect, meaning that it didnt work at all, no one used my stalls or anything .. what i think we could have is a main market for everything and everyone.. although this might sound stupid as ever it would somehow be a huge thing. having a portal/boat to there would also benefit very much.. having this main market for every player would be awesome to happen, but the problem is that this accomplishment will without a doubt not be done for many reasons which if you want can state although i already have some in mind :p .. Earning money through killing mobs is without a doubt fun and can always be a pain in the ass but thats how it is supposed to be, to get money to pay your rent you will need money, to get money you will need either kill mobs or sell things to other players , this is a good system at least in my opinion :p .. I wouldnt, probably, mind having other things to spend the money on but atm i dont know any other thing we could have so ye .. The Economy plugin is somewhat doing its job :p
--Theme zones.. well i think we could have them if they were organized and well explained to other players on how they exactly work, I dont know if we have a post for the theme zones but if we do then that is what we would show to someone who wanted a theme zone .. Players would have to explain thoroughly why they want this theme zone, why it would benefit the server and others ...
Now let me eat my breakfast!
... And so I announce:
Let the rage against me be set free
( for now only please :p haha )