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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 09:39 
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When downloading on the bog I often read Custom PC and can't believe how much time and money people spend on Folding. There some guys with garages full of base units packed with 260GTX's doing nothing all day but folding. I know they are helping to find green men in space (or something to do with proteins) but personally I think that is just smoke and mirrors and they are just way out there in left field.

This seems a step too far into nerdness, even worse than World of Warcraft.

Or am I wrong?

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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 09:43 
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Your wrong indeed.

Folding @ home is used to map proteins which on its turn are responsible for all sorts of diseases. The folding project is responsible for finding alot of information helping us to develop medicine, cures against altzheimer, cancer etc.

The Seti@home project at the other hand is imo completely useless. Thats being used for scanning alien signals from outer space.

The folding@home project is one which everyone should support. I just cba to run it as it makes your electric bill go up and your hardware livetime go down.

Ps. our old team is still on the rankings, "new_folder" its called.


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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 09:48 
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
decieses (spelled?)
Diseases :3

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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 11:04 
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
Your wrong indeed.

Folding @ home is used to map proteins which on its turn are responsible for all sorts of diseases. The folding project is responsible for finding alot of information helping us to develop medicine, cures against altzheimer, cancer etc.

The Seti@home project at the other hand is imo completely useless. Thats being used for scanning alien signals from outer space.

The folding@home project is one which everyone should support. I just cba to run it as it makes your electric bill go up and your hardware livetime go down.

Ps. our old team is still on the rankings, "new_folder" its called.
I totally get it has benefits and its a good cause - and like you Saint I would probably do it but don't want to shorten life of equipment.

The folks I'm referring to are the ones that seem to have lost the plot and are chasing the numbers and ranking - what its for really is now secondary. It seem to me like the most extreme form of grinding possible. Its from that point that I think they have lost the plot!

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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 11:06 
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Protein mapping FTW!

I personaly run Seti@home :) which is the search for little green men :P

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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 11:09 
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[SpA]JediLardMaster wrote:
[SpA]SaintK wrote:
Your wrong indeed.

Folding @ home is used to map proteins which on its turn are responsible for all sorts of diseases. The folding project is responsible for finding alot of information helping us to develop medicine, cures against altzheimer, cancer etc.

The Seti@home project at the other hand is imo completely useless. Thats being used for scanning alien signals from outer space.

The folding@home project is one which everyone should support. I just cba to run it as it makes your electric bill go up and your hardware livetime go down.

Ps. our old team is still on the rankings, "new_folder" its called.
I totally get it has benefits and its a good cause - and like you Saint I would probably do it but don't want to shorten life of equipment.

The folks I'm referring to are the ones that seem to have lost the plot and are chasing the numbers and ranking - what its for really is now secondary. It seem to me like the most extreme form of grinding possible. Its from that point that I think they have lost the plot!
They most certainly have! I guess E-penis is the correct term to use here :ugly:


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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 11:12 
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[SpA]JediLardMaster wrote:
[SpA]SaintK wrote:
Your wrong indeed.

Folding @ home is used to map proteins which on its turn are responsible for all sorts of diseases. The folding project is responsible for finding alot of information helping us to develop medicine, cures against altzheimer, cancer etc.

The Seti@home project at the other hand is imo completely useless. Thats being used for scanning alien signals from outer space.

The folding@home project is one which everyone should support. I just cba to run it as it makes your electric bill go up and your hardware livetime go down.

Ps. our old team is still on the rankings, "new_folder" its called.
I totally get it has benefits and its a good cause - and like you Saint I would probably do it but don't want to shorten life of equipment.

The folks I'm referring to are the ones that seem to have lost the plot and are chasing the numbers and ranking - what its for really is now secondary. It seem to me like the most extreme form of grinding possible. Its from that point that I think they have lost the plot!
Some of them actually do it because they were personally effected by the diseases it could stop (such as a family member). Which ones are you referring too? I know the one where he's got like 23 gtx295's in SLI, but he has his reasons:
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My brilliant father Tony and his equally brilliant brother Greg have advanced Huntington’s Disease which they inherited from their mother. I myself have taken the test for the disease and am negative for the gene.

I quite literally won a genetic coin toss, and having won the same coin toss that my father and uncle lost fills me with conflicting emotions; I vacillate between feelings of relief, helplessness, and self-disgust. Relief for never having to face what they face, helplessness at not being able to do anything significant to ease their suffering and restore their vitality, and self-disgust at the selfishness of feeling relieved.

Building Atlas Folder then is therapeutic for me. While it almost certainly will never directly help my father or uncle, it can help others as yet unborn that might suffer the same fate or the fate of some other genetic disease. This project and this blog then are very much about my coping with my not having Huntington’s Disease and what steps I can take as a healthy individual to contribute meaningfully in the name of my father and to justify my winning coin toss.

Jason Farqué
23 nVidia GTX295 (46 computing units)
32 9800GX2 (64 computing units) - He just added these :P

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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 11:20 
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I wonder how many points he has on a daily basis !


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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 11:24 
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
I wonder how many points he has on a daily basis !
Like 450,000 i think

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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 11:31 
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Let me re-iterate.

I know Folding is for a good cause - end of.

But I would wager that most of the addicts are doing it for the ranking and weird buzz, not for the original reason they started. None of the guys interviewed in Custom PC seem to do for no other reason than trying to get to a higher rank.

Seriously why build a system numeruous systems with 23 GTX295? They could of simply donated the thousands of euros he must of spent directly to them!

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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 11:35 
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[SpA]JediLardMaster wrote:
Let me re-iterate.

I know Folding is for a good cause - end of.

But I would wager that most of the addicts are doing it for the ranking and weird buzz, not for the original reason they started. None of the guys interviewed in Custom PC seem to do for no other reason than trying to get to a higher rank.

Seriously why build a system numeruous systems with 23 GTX295? They could of simply donated the thousands of euros he must of spent directly to them!

In the past we did it for the competition. I guess its similair to other competitions like online gaming, football etc. If you're on it as a team, its nice to work towards a higher ranking.

I do concur that its NUTS to upgrade your pc just for folding. What we did was simply hijack any pc we came across :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 11:36 
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[SpA]JediLardMaster wrote:
Let me re-iterate.

I know Folding is for a good cause - end of.

But I would wager that most of the addicts are doing it for the ranking and weird buzz, not for the original reason they started. None of the guys interviewed in Custom PC seem to do for no other reason than trying to get to a higher rank.

Seriously why build a system numeruous systems with 23 GTX295? They could of simply donated the thousands of euros he must of spent directly to them!
For them to buy the computational power to do exactly the same thing? :ugly:

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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 11:45 
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This is one of the few fortunate cases where losing the basic ideea and crossing the line to exaggeration is a good thing. You cause no harm yet you are much more helpful to the cause.

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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 12:47 
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Yeah, its actually good that people are competitive. It might make them lose sight of what it's actually for, but it gets the job done, so who cares?

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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 17:08 
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you can also use your ps3 :wink:


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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 21:26 
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for those of us who has no idea wtf this "folding" is, please explain :lol: and no, not worse than WoW.....NOTHING is worse than WoW, the shear cheek that not only does it erode your life but also your wallet via subscriptions take the piss :x


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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2009, 21:29 
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http://folding.stanford.edu/

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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2009, 09:22 
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If you want pointless go and download Prime95 and use your pc to find the next prime number...

chances are you'd never be able to, but i can promise your electricity bill would go up :P

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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2009, 10:25 
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If the competing ends up creating more time and effort on folding at home then to me it seems like a winning combination


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