Nice thinly veiled moan at me there Mopp

First of all get your facts right i didnt say "who are you to tell me what to do". I say i dont tell you how to play which is completely different sentence and means something different entirely. Of course i play how i like because thats how i enjoy the game im hardly going to play in a style which i dont like am i as that is against the whole point of having fun on computer games.

So meleeing is griefing then??? Why did Valve decide to add this feature into the game if it is considered griefing. What i would consider worse is people all going spy/sniper whatever the most recent update is as that ruins the game for more people than 1 player meleeing.

I consider people not joining in melee and ruining melee battles griefing as it ruins my enjoyment of the game.

Yes i know i can play on different servers and this i why i do that as i dont just play here you know and i've never said i have a right to play here.

Love the fact people take computer games so seriously as if it has an affect on there lives at all.

Only weak people resovle things with guns, things should be resovled man on man with fists

You're not the only one doing it, so I didn't direct it at you, mr. Giggles ;)

I don't think you understand the concept of griefing. We as players should not have to adjust to your playstyle just
because you find it fun. You're not contributing to the teamplay of the game, no matter how much fun only you
have. If I find it fun doing nothing but spinning in circles in the corner of our spawn, should I be allowed to do that?

It's just a waste of player slots. It's not about taking the game serious, it's about what the general majority of the players
think is fun and proper playing, and why they join a normal server, not a melee only server.

And the "Why did they include melee then?" question is just a way to try and justify your actions.
You know that just as well as me.


I have nothing against you mr. Giggles, or any of the other people who do the same thing, but people actually complain about it.
That's why I voice my opinion on the matter. You'd be long gone from the servers if not ;)

It clearly was and you know it


If you thing im wasting a space then you really have no idea about how i play then, as most of the people who play on these servers are too scared about dying that on payload maps they never get on the cart yet im normally the one on there.

Why should i change my style because you dont like it?

Also your example was really quite rubbish as you know how i play and that example are nothing like each other and they cant be compared in anyway.

Meleeing is a lot more skilled than fireing yet another crit rocket down a corridor or mowing down a scout as a heavy or grenade camping a doorway.

The majority of the people who play on these servers also enjoy and particate in melee on a regular basis so you seem to be in the minority on this one.

I see your point moPP, but the fact is that we do not have any rules against, and therefor does not have any ground to kick people who's doing it. and even worse is the point of our own SpA members doing precisly the same, should we start kicking our own members for that reason? what kind of impression does it leave for the community members? kicking someone should only be used if there's a majority of people against that persons action. in a few cases i've noticed that certain members think they can tell everyone what to do... BECAUSE they're admins. this is not the face towards the community we want

in short, think a bit about how people will react before running along your madman crazy kicking spree

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[SpA]Revenge "Wheres the element of surpise :/"

[SpA]Mint "IN.... MY....PANTS"

[SpA]Minimoose "Revenge is going to jump out of your pants?"

Melee is fun every once in a while, but not always. That's why we have our melee sudden death. It's exactly the amount of melee so that it's fun and fair for everyone.

If you do it too excessively though, it disrupts the gameplay, because you're not helping your team in the way you should. That is why you shouldn't run around only using your melee weapon and anyone doing it for extened periods of time will get kicked.

I've updated the rules a bit to clarify this particular situation.

We have a lot of members now in SpA. Of course there are always gonna be some that don't know/follow the rules exactly. You can be certain though, if I see a SpA member doing this, or any other kind of griefing for that matter, I will warn him and if he doesn't comply also kick him.

That makes perfect sense lets stop doing something which many people like doing because a couple of people moan about it because they keep getting killed by people who meleeing when they are trying to play seriously.

Mint

Its good to see someone has some common sense!

It's good to see that Demm is on the same page as me, and sums it up in less words! :p

Mint;
First of all, we do have rules against griefing, and second: I have yet to kick anyone for doing melee.
I don't think I can tell everyone what to do just because I'm an admin. I do however go by the server rules,
and those comply to everyone, be it some random guy or spa members.

Meleeing only on a full server is grieving in my book. Period.

You are filling up a spot that could be used for someone who might actually contribute to the team effort.

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<@Howard_s> usa just has a made up economy - they can't really go broke

JuncoPartner: I could barely hold it up for long.

I'm with Spike on this one, especially when your team is on the losing side you cannot use this type of gameplay.

Just noticed something, If building structures in your own spawn isn't allowed (as to do so would be explioting a glitch - i think) surely shooting into the enemy spawn should be disallowed too?

on that note, anyone miss the old spawn sentries that used to come out the ceiling? *sigh* i miss those little guys

i dont think giggles would be any more useful even if he used the minigun

The next steps are to kick battle medics, engies who build sentries in random spots that have nothing to do with defending the point and every player who is new to the game or just awful at it. These people are "useless" as well.

What about scouts using FaN? Sure they might kill somebody from time to time but using the scattergun is a no-brainer becuse of the superior firepower. That would help the team more, no?

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Comfortably Numb

Those aren't INTENTIONALLY trying to ruin gameplay!

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<@Howard_s> usa just has a made up economy - they can't really go broke

JuncoPartner: I could barely hold it up for long.

While your at it why dont you kick everyone who's crap?

As they are being useless as well.

Cookye is right, have you thought that i might actually be better at melee than i am at as you would say playing "seriously"?

That's actually a pretty good idea. That would make playing on our servers so much more enjoyable!

I'm fairly sure their intentions are to have fun killing people Spike, not to cause grief.

Btw, does this apply solely to the melee weapon? because just now on pipeline and 2fort there was a pyro only using his flaregun.

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I've seen spies only backstabbing people, talk about griefing by using their melee weapons, ban them all i say

then.,... who would be play against?

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[SpA]Revenge "Wheres the element of surpise :/"

[SpA]Mint "IN.... MY....PANTS"

[SpA]Minimoose "Revenge is going to jump out of your pants?"