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 Post subject: Hydro - get rid of it
PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 17:10 
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This thing is unplayable even with no engies, no other map comes close to the amount of spam you can see on hydro.
Rounds either drag on till sudden death or end in a very quick steamroll.
It also seems to empty the servers, I just played a round of steel on 1.5 and the server was full, hydro comes up and 15 or 16 people are left.
I don't understand how decent maps are taken out of rotation (egypt, pipeline) yet this horrible thing is still on, not only that but it's placed right after dustbowl so you can enjoy 1 whole hour of spam.

What do you guys think? Is there anyone that actually likes tc_hydro?


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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 17:16 
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Like with KOTH the time limt on the sub parts of hydro needs to be drasticly lowerd.

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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 17:29 
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Lowering the time limit will only make it less of a bother to endure, the map will still empty the server at non peak times, and it would certainly not make the map fun to play.

KOTH can be a lot of fun if the teams are balanced and when the map isn't viaduct (VALVe's second hydro imo) hydro however is never fun.


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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 17:35 
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I'm getting pretty sick of these threads, its pretty much every other day now. I like playing different maps other than the usual Goldrush, Badlands, Dustbowl and Granary. :|


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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 17:39 
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i used to like it with engies (not with 5 but 1 engi each) that actually made gamemode better and a single scout couldnt cap your point while you were pushing forward....

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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 18:01 
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Yep, it's true. Hydro is either a steamroll or a stalemate. I have played a few good rounds on it, but most of the time they're just boring. Removing engis didn't really help.

I would prefer it if we had some more custom maps in the rotation. They empty out the server as well (since many people don't want to download maps), but at least they're fun to play.


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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 18:15 
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[SpA]Repel wrote:
I'm getting pretty sick of these threads, its pretty much every other day now. I like playing different maps other than the usual Goldrush, Badlands, Dustbowl and Granary. :|
I like variety as well but there is no point in keeping a map that is bad for the sake of variety.
I agree with demm, there are a lot of good customs that can take the place of hydro. Labor is in rotation even though it's customs so I don't see why not others (labor isn't even that great of a map).
Pipeline and egypt both are official and better then hydro so they won't empty servers the way customs do, and I've seen quite a few people asking to have egypt back in rotation.


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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 18:20 
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at first I felt like repel did. but actually, hydro was good for the retro factor when it came back in, although I can tell that it's starting to run out a bit. maybe let the map rest for a while before putting it back in?

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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 18:21 
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Marmelada wrote:
[SpA]Repel wrote:
I'm getting pretty sick of these threads, its pretty much every other day now. I like playing different maps other than the usual Goldrush, Badlands, Dustbowl and Granary. :|
I like variety as well but there is no point in keeping a map that is bad for the sake of variety.
I agree with demm, there are a lot of good customs that can take the place of hydro. Labor is in rotation even though it's customs so I don't see why not others (labor isn't even that great of a map).
Pipeline and egypt both are official and better then hydro so they won't empty servers the way customs do, and I've seen quite a few people asking to have egypt back in rotation.
Egypt was probably removed because of people complaining in a thread like this one, you cant keep everyone happy.


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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 18:27 
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I think we'll have to re-think our mapcycle a bit.
It seems there are many people that would like some more custom maps in the rotation. I'll organize a small map test event next week so that we can maybe add 1 or 2 maps to the default rotation.

About egypt: the map is heavily unbalanced. Just look at the Steam stats. It's certainly not good enough for our servers.


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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 19:20 
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[SpA]demm wrote:
I think we'll have to re-think our mapcycle a bit.
It seems there are many people that would like some more custom maps in the rotation. I'll organize a small map test event next week so that we can maybe add 1 or 2 maps to the default rotation.

About egypt: the map is heavily unbalanced. Just look at the Steam stats. It's certainly not good enough for our servers.
yet hydro was -_-

:roll:

Anyhow someone put engi limit on 1 on the maps he is banned from plz.

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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 20:19 
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I suggested some maps but it hasn't gone anywhere :roll: Then we could get of the shit maps without people complaining about there not being enough variety, unless they class variety and good and shit maps, then we are screwed.

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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 20:39 
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What about pipeline ? I miss it :(


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PostPosted: 15 Sep 2009, 21:00 
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[SpA]Repel wrote:
I'm getting pretty sick of these threads, its pretty much every other day now. I like playing different maps other than the usual Goldrush, Badlands, Dustbowl and Granary. :|
Here, here! N1 Repel.

Plus, im all for seeing new maps in rotation and some old ones, but i dont see the point in all these individual threads, can we not just get one post for tf2 map moaning?

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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2009, 14:47 
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1:30pm 20+peeps on Server 2

Map change to Hydro

1:45pm 5 peeps on Server 2

Sigh - was enjoying myself before Hydro

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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2009, 14:52 
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I see this happening more and more, hydro emptying the server, especially in the evening hours and its kinda hard to get people back after it.
So, why not get rid of it from the mapcycle, but maybe keep it in spapoints menu, so if someone feels like palying hydro, he can spend some points for it.


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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2009, 14:52 
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i've created a ticket to remove hydro from the cycle.


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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2009, 18:58 
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
i've created a ticket to remove hydro from the cycle.

Thanks Saint.

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