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PostPosted: 06 Dec 2009, 20:16 
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As we were talking on mumble yesterday, it came to our attention a certain "someone" didn't know who achmed was......
These people are indeed living under a rock in my sense. Now if that is so, here you go, get some knowledge of the outside world :)

Do actually look at other video's ya nutcases.


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PostPosted: 07 Dec 2009, 13:08 
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Wow, this is new to me.... is what I would have said if this was 1960!

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PostPosted: 07 Dec 2009, 15:16 
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like i said someone.......

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PostPosted: 07 Dec 2009, 16:04 
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I personally think Achmed and the Wang Basket with his hand up it's ass, are shit.

I still knew who they were though.


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PostPosted: 07 Dec 2009, 16:21 
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[SpA]DrMcMoist wrote:
I personally think Achmed and the Wang Basket with his hand up it's ass, are shit.

I still knew who they were though.
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PostPosted: 07 Dec 2009, 16:44 
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[SpA]cookye wrote:
[SpA]DrMcMoist wrote:
I personally think Achmed and the Wang Basket with his hand up it's ass, are shit.

I still knew who they were though.
came to post this
Came to this post.

Ah, sweet word order typology - i.e. in Polish the meaning of the sentence would stay the same no matter how much you switched things around. ^^
All of Isolating languages' base are belong to Synthetic Fusional languages! :-P

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PostPosted: 07 Dec 2009, 20:11 
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Glad i'm not the only one that doesn't like that guy.

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 02:19 
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There are some good jokes in his act but overall it's a weak comedian. Silly jokes, boring setups and such.

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 04:36 
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The tell sell equivalent of comedians and stand up.

I bet he's real popular with these ppl:
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Not to insult the ppl in SpA that like mr Dunham, you're obviously no redneck or any other moronic leveled inbread human being, but I strongly feel the urge to share my dislikes when it comes down to this kind of filth. Why would it be ok for ppl to openly share their likings but not their dislikings? The way I see it, a lot of ppl , media and such, force me to see glimpses of this terrible filth. I say glimpses cuz I'm quite swift in zapping away as soon as this crap comes up. The fact that I do see it come by so many freaking times and that ppl try to tell me that they so much like this shit, kind of gives me the idea I'm allowed to spread my beliefs about mr Dunham around as well. Now the differences between mr Dunham and the ppl that like him are that I'm not that set on spreading my opinion globally by overtaking all the chavy news/radio/propoganda stations that are there to influence, indoctrinate, condition and manipulate the tart folks opinions. What I do strongly feel the urge to is that when something like this gets posted on one of the smaller corners of the net I feel very much connected with and represented by,which is already a miracle considdering I work in mysterious ways :ugly:, is to tell you guys that this is GOD DAMNED FILTH.... and CRAP

Now for fuck sake and humankind's sake, try to counter the inbalance by posting some good comedians and stand ups here plz... :cry:
It makes me cry to see so many are going to HELLLLLLLLLLL!!!!! (that's what any religious extremist would tell you if you shared your personal opinion of this filth with him)

Now I'll give the good example and share some of the greater goods of comedy and stand up.
Like, Richard Pryor:
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Or George Carlin:
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There's many more of course, but these are the two that came to mind in a blitz like second :4
Richard Pryor was one of the pioneers and one of best out there, it's a shame he's not around anymore, but thank god for film. His movies are good as well, if you haven't seen "see no evil, hear no evil" you should go see it. It's a classic in the humor that ain't found around anymore. Ppl like steve martin still try to copy his stuff and horrifically fail at it. George Carlin is someone you like or really dislike, but there's one thing sure about him, he doesn't let himself get censored in what he says, at all. Compared to the filth that mr Dunham tries to spread, these ppl are gods, pioneers, founders of what later will be viewed upon as "Majorly epic good shit!" :mrgreen:
Now if you've read this, chances are by seperating yourself from the moronic inbread crowd and exposing your mind to a broader view of what comedy should be like, your IQ has grown every second you've let your mind ponder the little letters and words of this post. Next to that, balance will return, smart ppl will take over, I promise, cuz until the day that I die, I'll try to spread my strong opinion around among my close social groups and the ppl that deserve a wake up call! :P

P.S. And yes, I'd like to emphasize the fact that I'm smart in this post. Don't get me wrong, I'm usually not that arrogant when I'm trying to be a prick, it's just that compared to Dunham crap,even my chicken parmesan seems fucking smart!

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 13:10 
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This thread has been a tremendous disaster, so I'm gonna post some Pablo Francisco. For anybody not familiar with him, he's a GOOD Comedian.

Emphasis on the word good there.






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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 13:17 
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Yeah...Jeff Dunham isn't remotely funny.


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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 17:29 
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Bucky for president! :4

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 17:54 
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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 17:57 
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
[SpA]cookye wrote:
came to post this
Came to this post.

Ah, sweet word order typology - i.e. in Polish the meaning of the sentence would stay the same no matter how much you switched things around. ^^
All of Isolating languages' base are belong to Synthetic Fusional languages! :-P
Wait - so in Polish "Came to post this" means the same as "Posted this to come"?

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 18:56 
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I see what you did there but I'll pretend you were serious and elaborate:

Yes it does BUT in Polish you would have used differently inflected words to change the meaning of the sentence and hence there is zero confusion but you can't analyze Polish semantics with phrases TRANSLATED into another language, that's the whole point of it, isn't it? Polish has very rich morphology, hence while the word order doesn't change the meaning, the meaning and even grammatical function is inherent in the words itself. i.e. for the most part Polish sentences don't have a subject as a separate word since it's contained within the verb itself.

And don't be a smart-ass, since German works in very much the same way - you don't need to know Polish to figure it out.

"Ich bin gekommen um zu posten"
"Um zu posten gekommen bin ich"
"Gekommen bin ich um zu posten"

Etc. - everything means the same, you just sound more and more like Yoda the more you switch things around - and the stress in the sentence obviously changes.

Ah, on top of that "to come" doesn't have a double meaning in Polish like it does in English or even in German and thus it's impossible to morph one sentence into another just by changing word order - "to come" - "przychodzić" - "to come" (sexual meaning and some others) - "dochodzić". Note the meaning-changing prefixes.

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 19:03 
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That's a moot point though since you could then say this works with every language. If you say "I here came post this to" people will still understand what you mean but the sentence is as wrong as it could possibly be nonetheless, much like "Um zu posten gekommen bin ich" etc.

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 19:25 
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That's a moot point though since you could then say this works with every language.
Ehm - no.

It doesn't work in English. Like I explained in my first post English is an isolating language with a Subject-Verb-Object order. You're using a bad example to illustrate this and don't correctly switch the words around to change the meaning of the sentence - meaning can change with word order but not always does - in other languages like e.g. Polish it is impossible to change the meaning of a sentence through word order manipulation alone and that is the very difference between isolating and synthetic languages.

i.e. "I came here to post this"
"I came to this post here"

Two 100% grammatically correct English sentences, not a single word or letter was changed and yet two completely different meanings,

Let's analyze another simpler sentence in which changing the word order doesn't actually make words change the respective lexical categories, which is another hilarious feature of the English language - "to post" and "the post", anyways:

"The boy gave the girl drugs."
boy -drugs-> girl

Now let's change the word order:

"The girl gave the boy drugs."
girl -drugs-> boy

These sentences have opposite meanings.

However, in German or Polish they would still retain their original meaning if you switched the word order around:

"Der Junge hat dem Mädchen Drogen gegeben"
Junge -Drogen-> Mädchen

Of course we have to move the nouns with the articles as one entity since articles don't have a meaning on their own and are part of the German grammatical case system - a thing English lacks and the sole reason why word order matters. We get:

"Dem Mädchen hat der Junge Drogen gegeben"
Junge -Drogen-> Mädchen

Exactly the same operation we performed in English, so switching the position of the Subject and Object in the sentence and yet the meaning remains the same.

In Polish too:

"Chłopak dał dziewczynie narkotyki."
chłopak -narkotyki-> dziewczyna (the nominative form)

"Dziewczynie dał chłopak narkotyki."
chłopak -narkotyki-> dziewczyna

This is all due to the fact that English doesn't have grammatical cases except for a possessive case stub retained in the so-called Saxon Genitive.

It's amazing how misinformed and non-reflective people are about linguistics, mostly because many of them think that being able to speak/write a given language automatically turns them into linguists, which it does not. :-P

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 19:32 
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can someone summarize the above few posts in 2 or 3 lines of text for me? :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 19:32 
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
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That's a moot point though since you could then say this works with every language.
Ehm - no.

It doesn't work in English. Like I explained in my first post English is an isolating language with a Subject-Verb-Object order. You're using a bad example to illustrate this and don't correctly switch the words around to change the meaning of the sentence.

i.e. "I came here to post this"
"I came to this post here"

Two 100% grammatically correct English sentences, not a single word or letter was changed and yet two completely different meanings,

Let's analyze another simpler sentence in which changing the word order doesn't actually make words change the respective lexical categories, which is another hilarious feature of the English language - "to post" and "the post", anyways:

"The boy gave the girl drugs."
boy -drugs-> girl

Now let's change the word order:

"The girl gave the boy drugs."
girl -drugs-> boy

These sentences have opposite meanings.

However, in German or Polish they would still retain their original meaning if you switched the word order around:

"Der Junge hat dem Mädchen Drogen gegeben"
Junge -Drogen-> Mädchen

Of course we have to move the nouns with the articles as one entity since articles don't have a meaning on their own and are part of the German grammatical case system - a thing English lacks and the sole reason why word order matters. We get:

"Dem Mädchen hat der Junge Drogen gegeben"
Junge -Drogen-> Mädchen

Exactly the same operation we performed in English, so switching the position of the Subject and Object in the sentence and yet the meaning remains the same.

In Polish too:

"Chłopak dał dziewczynie narkotyki."
chłopak -narkotyki-> dziewczyna (the nominative form)

"Dziewczynie dał chłopak narkotyki."
chłopak -narkotyki-> dziewczyna

This is all due to the fact that English doesn't have grammatical cases except for a possessive case stub retained in the so-called Saxon Genitive.

It's amazing how misinformed and non-reflective people are about linguistics, mostly because many of them think that being able to speak/write a given language automatically turns them into linguists, which it does not. :-P
SILENCE! I kill you ;-D

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 19:33 
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
can someone summarize the above few posts in 2 or 3 lines of text for me? :mrgreen:
How about one: English is funny, because switching the position of words in a sentence can completely change its meaning. :-D
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SILENCE! I kill you ;-D
Oh c'mon - let me spread my grammar wings and roam free in the linguistic skies for once. It's SO rare that I get to utilize all the useless (as in: not helpful in my job or pretty much anywhere else) knowledge acquired during the five wasted years of university studies and my meaningless Master's degree in applied linguistics. ;-)

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 19:54 
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
everything means the same, you just sound more and more like Yoda the more you switch things around
That is the part I was referring to. English is an exception allright but I didn't read the rest of the post (or any of the next one, I left school years ago tyvm).

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 20:00 
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
[SpA]SaintK wrote:
can someone summarize the above few posts in 2 or 3 lines of text for me? :mrgreen:
How about one: English is funny, because switching the position of words in a sentence can completely change its meaning. :-D
I think that goes for all Germanic languages. The same is in Dutch and German. I bet it also counts for countries such as Denmark etc.


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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 20:15 
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And to add somethin usefull:













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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 20:27 
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
How about one: English is funny, because switching the position of words in a sentence can completely change its meaning. :-D
I think that goes for all Germanic languages. The same is in Dutch and German. I bet it also counts for countries such as Denmark etc.
No, you truly haven't been reading my posts. It is NOT the same in German. If you're talking about Germanic languages then you're talking about a diachronic (historical) classification, not the synchronic one. There's a distinct line between historical linguistics and other branches of linguistics, you see.

English is a Germanic (subset of Indo-European) isolating language.
German is a Germanic fusional (subset of synthetic) language.
Polish is a Slavic fusional (subset of synthetic) language.

Families of languages usually share a pool of common vocabulary while languages classified in the same group morphologically or morphosyntactically will more closely resemble each other from a grammatical perspective.
Hence, while it might sound funny to you, German is actually closer to Polish than English in certain aspects as I outlined in the posts you didn't read. ^^

Funnily enough *gasp* Chinese, a Sintic (subset of Sino-Tibetan) isolating language (though it shows some major agglutination these days), is closer to English than German from a morphological perspective. :-D

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 20:33 
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
[SpA]SaintK wrote:

I think that goes for all Germanic languages. The same is in Dutch and German. I bet it also counts for countries such as Denmark etc.
No, you truly haven't been reading my posts. It is NOT the same in German. If you're talking about Germanic languages then you're talking about a diachronic (historical) classification, not the synchronic one. There's a distinct line between historical linguistics and other branches of linguistics, you see.

English is a Germanic isolating language.
German is a Germanic fusional (subset of synthetic) language.
Polish is a Slavic fusional (subset of synthetic) language.

Families of languages usually share a pool of common vocabulary while languages classified in the same group morphologically or morphosyntactically will more closely resemble each other from a grammatical perspective.
Hence, while it might sound funny to you, German is actually closer to Polish than English in certain aspects as I outlined in the posts you didn't read. ^^
I admit i haven't read your post, hence the request for a summarized version :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 20:59 
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[SpA]SaintK wrote:
[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
No, you truly haven't been reading my posts. It is NOT the same in German. If you're talking about Germanic languages then you're talking about a diachronic (historical) classification, not the synchronic one. There's a distinct line between historical linguistics and other branches of linguistics, you see.

English is a Germanic isolating language.
German is a Germanic fusional (subset of synthetic) language.
Polish is a Slavic fusional (subset of synthetic) language.

Families of languages usually share a pool of common vocabulary while languages classified in the same group morphologically or morphosyntactically will more closely resemble each other from a grammatical perspective.
Hence, while it might sound funny to you, German is actually closer to Polish than English in certain aspects as I outlined in the posts you didn't read. ^^
I admit i haven't read your post, hence the request for a summarized version :mrgreen:
I doubt you got past the first line on that one :P

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 21:00 
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Technobabble ftw

or; Thread successfully hi-jacked. To the base, heroes! *da da da DA*

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 21:20 
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[SpA]Relentless wrote:
Technobabble ftw

or; Thread successfully hi-jacked. To the base, heroes! *da da da DA*
Yeah, it's a little known fact that we, linguists, are able to spout technobabble while technically still being humanists. I guess there are some unique features to this science after all. :-P

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 22:45 
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Lims linguistics skills are quite interesting imo, although I don't understand any of the technical words used.

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[SpA]Bucky wrote:
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I fucking love this rant!
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