[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKBRG_Qg ... r_embedded[/youtube]

Time to make a nice big pile.

Where'd I put those matches... ^_^

The funniest is how many people hate on the video, WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT!

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<+Thaw111> although im shit at speeling
<+Thaw111> type
<+Thaw111> gtypo
<+Thaw111> typo
<+Thaw111> shit

he should have just burned WoW to beging with..

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-"You've really worked out your banter, haven't you?"
-"No, not really. This is a different thing, it's spontaneous and it's called wit."

lol, what a douchebag, although I'm inclined to agree to burn WOW

Life = videogames

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Classy is when a woman has everything to flaunt, but chooses not to show it!

its really about balance, and this guy obviously couldn't do that.

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-"You've really worked out your banter, haven't you?"
-"No, not really. This is a different thing, it's spontaneous and it's called wit."

Yeah it really is about balance, games are addictive, and are great for killing time, but youth is so precious you need real things to look back on. I never mind being alone, having the #1 person on the planet to myself is just great, but sometimes I'll settle for second best and just go out get pissed have a laugh. People boast about social lives and relationships, but anyone can acquire these things if they choose to.

Just order that shit in from russia!

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-"You've really worked out your banter, haven't you?"
-"No, not really. This is a different thing, it's spontaneous and it's called wit."

I found this to be more inclined towards humour rather than a moral lesson. I mean, he burned world of warcraft, talked to us about learning spanish, told us about how a lot of the infrastructure our world is based on is rather rubbish, or not useful.

I don't know, it's just the impression I've gotten. Either he had too much influence from that aspect of the world during his life, or he was bullied or something, but this video didn't really do much but entertain me.

If he was serious, then he's just someone who doesn't know what "moderation" means.

Travelled the world, learned languages, worked in many industries, saved lives, been arrested, have outstanding warrants for my arrest (Burma), gave up drinking and drugs, indulged in as many kinds of immoral behaviour as I could, still play games and don't gaming experiences as less than those in films or music or books or real life.

He needed something to blame for his poor decisions, had it not been games it'd be junk food, game shows, flashing, school shootings, porn or something else. He is right though when the word Failure scrolls past him; if you let it consume you its still your fault not the games. Why do people not accept personal responsibility these days?

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What a twat.
Because taking responsibility for your life is for dicks, why bother doing that when there's something else out there to blame that 9 times out of 10 is an inanimate object that can't say anything to the contrary?

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I broke a TV once after coming out of rehab (before time) because a shows tag line was "Heroin ruined my life" I threw a mug at it and cracked the screen. Rehab, AA and DAA all did the same thing, we're victims to the drugs and to the booze; like its cancer. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK they make me so angry.

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Well I suppose if you want to criticize him you must think about it in many prespectives, for example, me might have experienced one of those cases where he got so addicted he nearly died of starvation. Course he can't blame the games themselves, it's like a drug addicted guy blaming the drugs for being so addictive where you'd say "then don't take them in the 1st place!". Now what we can see is, he might not be saying this to "us" but to whoever might be experiencing that same problem.

And before you troll me (:P), I personally don't have any addictions (maybe watching anime if that counts?) and most of the times I find it odd how people get so addicted to so many things (I've tried drugs, smoke, drinking, etc. in a dailly basis and yet I didn't get addicted), but then again I can't just blame them to let those addictions take control of them, instead I'll have to see it from a different approach.

/end of rant, back into my closet

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"I haven't failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work"
"Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience"

Some people don't have an addictive and dependent personality, some do

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Classy is when a woman has everything to flaunt, but chooses not to show it!

I do, I know it, I've sadly proved it. You learn to manage it, I'll not blame booze for my inability to deal with it properly, the failing is mine genetic or not its not the alcohols fault I wasted my life or started taking drugs and its not the drugs fault that it nearly killed me, my decisions, my fault. There's always the option to stop self destructive behaviour but to blame something that has no control, that you chose, rather than your own actions? Pointless and the resort of a week or simply brainwashed mind.

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You seem to have had quite the eventful life.
I do believe Cardboard has just taught me a valuable lesson.

I made it to 30 seconds before I switched it off.

Sorry anna that actually reads like I'm in some way angry at you, I'm not and I don't disagree.

I'm just tired of constantly campaigning for personal freedoms to have people, like this guy, blame something inanimate for his failings. The fast food made me fat, My sex addiction ruined my life so on ad nauseam. To have personal freedoms we have to take personal responsibility.

I can forgive anyone their decisions and their faults, I can't forgive blaming something else for them. There's to much in the world we don't have control over that can strike us down to start adding to that list things we do have control over.
Yes, I guess eventful would be the word. I advise you to go out and make your own mistakes to learn from, they tend to be the lessons that hold in the mind the best.

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"Adictive personalities" are like annorexia or alcoholism - words we have invented to make people feel better about their weakness and stupidity.

As for games being a waste of time or unproductive - of course they are. The problem is that everything we do on this earth is utterly devoid of meaning. Our crazy monkey brains simply try and find patterns and meaning in everything we look at, but the truth is there are none.

Here is my favourite quote by one of my favourite writers (the end of which is in my sig I think). While bleak, depressive and soul-crushing, it does make the point very clearly:

Existence is random - something to keep in mind. Now this isn't a doctrine of "fuck it all, its meaningless", but trying to weigh one activity over another is pretty stupid. Sure, there are biological imperatives and racial traits (we are pack animals after all) but the world is too multi-faceted now to be held to such simple, black and white standards of "this thing good, that thing bad".

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"Fire rained from the sky on the day I was born: 10,000 lives I ended before drawing first breath. Do not speak to me of guilt or regret, Jonathan.” - Brayan, The Keepers of the Fire

primates don't have WoW, that's why they jerk off alot...

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-"You've really worked out your banter, haven't you?"
-"No, not really. This is a different thing, it's spontaneous and it's called wit."

Fuck me that's bleak, I take it you're not of the school of thought that meaning can be created, regardless of the notion of extant meaning.

I love Rorschach as a character but I could never be that comfortable with somebody that see's the world in such absolutes I think that is a much more terrifying legacy for the Watchmen than anything else. Also Watchmen always made me wonder if Alan Moore is a utilitarian or not.

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i met dave gibbons on the weekend, and he signed my copy of watchmen... alan moore wasn't there... obviously hehe

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-"You've really worked out your banter, haven't you?"
-"No, not really. This is a different thing, it's spontaneous and it's called wit."

Your thought process is a 6 minute long animated YouTube video waiting to happen, dawg!

I liek gaming

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a bird in a bird in a bird in a bird in a bird in a pig

Actually I do agree that meaning can be created, its just you have to accept that absolutely no one else may see the same levels of worth in the things you decide to do (and therefore trying to persuade others that what they do is "bad" is just idiotic").
Yeah - I get that a lot. I don't associate with Rorschach, I just admire him for his total commitment to his beliefs. The man is, however, utterly and irrevocably broken, no doubt.
That particular paragraph though is something I think that most people should take on board (with a big ol' cup of happy juice to take the crazy down a thousand notches) as it speaks of ownership of action. I read this book when I was a lot younger and was blown away buy the power of Rorschach as a character. Sure, he is the epitome of the "black and white" viewpoint but I think most people have something to learn from him.

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"Fire rained from the sky on the day I was born: 10,000 lives I ended before drawing first breath. Do not speak to me of guilt or regret, Jonathan.” - Brayan, The Keepers of the Fire

Anyone who chops up a child molester gets 8 gold stars in my book; sucks he is ginger though
hehe

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-"You've really worked out your banter, haven't you?"
-"No, not really. This is a different thing, it's spontaneous and it's called wit."

That's the thing with Watchmen, the graphic novel at least, all the characters are little life lessons its just Rorschach is so strong and vital that he clouds the slightly more balanced views out, still you have to have that counter point to the cold, ultra hard, logic that is Manhattan; whole bloody novel is about warring philosophies.

I often think it'd be easier to be happier with the world clearly defined in black and white, every problem would have a single obvious solution and absolutely everything would simply be cause and effect. If things were wrong the prescribed cause of action to remedy would be obvious. I often thank god that I have never seen the world that way though.

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Totally. To go off topic for a second: what do you and the other Watchmen fans think of the film? Personally I have never been so disappointed in my life. The damn thing looks amazing, is spectacularly shot, has a great cast and should have been the real thing, but for reasons I will never understand they cut out the good Rorschach bits, specifically the speech I quoted, and therefore neutered the entire film. Like it or not, Watchmen is Rorschach's story,and to cut out his origin story, that cold, hard, unthinkable moment when he shatters like so much glass and becomes the psycho he is, is just unforgivable.

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"Fire rained from the sky on the day I was born: 10,000 lives I ended before drawing first breath. Do not speak to me of guilt or regret, Jonathan.” - Brayan, The Keepers of the Fire

Honestly depends on what version you watched Howard, the 2nd cut had the scene with the original nightowl getting beaten and killed which i don't think was in the theatrical release, i still haven't built up the will to watch the directors super directors cut yet, which is like 5 hours or something.

I loved the animation they made for Curse of the Black Freighter and the documentary underneath the hood.

As for the film, it had its flaw and its good points; but would never hold a candle to the book. I think it had some decent casting; mostly. The intro pissed me off, summed up a good chunk of the book in a 6min montage. Also; I thought changing the ending was sort of the right thing to do, a massive CGI giant squid thing would have looked a bit weird and out of place; so i wasn't to bothered about that. The lynx looked pretty crap. Generally Snyder is pretty good at his grading and editing, i like his style, and i actually want to see his take on superman. He's not a great writer as Suckerpunch proved, though he has good ideas - like the added bits in 300 etc. Rorschach's mask was great and most of his scenes were pretty good. I need to re watch it though, the directors directors directors extended cut, too refresh my mind. Big problem he has is his use of music, he seems to rely on his tracks too often, fair enough stuff like bob dylan was used in the books so thats fine, but some scenes it just sounded silly and didnt matc the visuals.

There is actually a long ass animation of watchmen, with audio somewhere on the net, taken straight from the book

and i met Dave Gibbons on sunday! WIN!

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-"You've really worked out your banter, haven't you?"
-"No, not really. This is a different thing, it's spontaneous and it's called wit."

I've seen the full super long version - they still don't add Rorschach's speech back so it still sucks. As to the animation version: great idea but it too sucked. They took the cells from the book and animated them slightly (gave them parallax essentially) but then they had one guy narrate the entire thing and do all the voices - it sounded like a sinister Jackanory gone wrong.

As to changing the ending: Sure getting rid of the silly giant squid was good, but the alternative they chose was just stupid and Hollywood.

Bah to all of it I say...

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"Fire rained from the sky on the day I was born: 10,000 lives I ended before drawing first breath. Do not speak to me of guilt or regret, Jonathan.” - Brayan, The Keepers of the Fire

I'm too tired to do this justice now.

I'll do it when I get back home in a couple of days.

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People are right in saying that people should look at themselves before blaming their addiction on something other than their own decisions, but hm I know people that I barely even see anymore, because gamings took over their lifes, you don't have to get into the 'wrong' crowds to get into gaming, and while it's not really a big deal, someone who loves their games have no intentions of stopping something they enjoy, because they see don't see any harm in gaming.

Ok so the video was abit silly and soppy for my liking, but this guys realised something he would have rather realised sometime ago. I like to think I keep a great balance, but playing games, and bumming around on the web, has slowly took over my reading time, and now I don't read at all, and it's unusual for me to let something take up more spare time than it's welcome to. Here I am rolling spliff, eyeing up a litre of Jack Daniels, but I'm addicted to niether of these things, though whenever I'm playing a game that I'm hyped up about, I just can't wait to get home and play it. I don't ever turn an arrangement down to play games, even if I want to, because I just know how easy it can be to unplug from daily life.