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Author:  dckjns [ 15 Nov 2008, 09:39 ]
Post subject:  Older computer

I have this other, older computer (4ghz processor, 2048mb ram, running Vista Home Premium), and even the simplest of 3d-games (Peggle, for instance) lags like hell on it.

Would this computer be to crap to run Vista and simultaneously run simple computer games (according to this, it should at least be able to run Vista) and do I need to revert back to XP? Any other possible reasons?

Author:  [SpA]TheWeirdo [ 15 Nov 2008, 10:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: Older computer

Tell us about your graphics card.

Author:  dckjns [ 15 Nov 2008, 11:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Older computer

Can't go check right now, but it was decent enough for Half-Life 2 back when I was running XP, at least.

Drivers might be old now (since last format), but I don't see how that would affect utterly simple games such as Peggle and the like.

Author:  Murk [ 16 Nov 2008, 00:49 ]
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nein! wrote:
older computer (4ghz processor
Uh what

What's the newer like then

Author:  Marmot [ 16 Nov 2008, 01:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Older computer

Quote:
older computer (4ghz processor, 2048mb ram, running Vista Home Premium)
You ruined my life. Now I don't know how to call my computer :( (1,8ghz processor, 768MB RAM, GF FX5200, running Windows XP).

Some advices:
- turn off Aero.
- kill as many useless processes as you can (with Process Explorer it's very easy to find, which are useless for OS)
- turn min. details ;DD

Author:  Lim-Dul [ 16 Nov 2008, 02:48 ]
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One thing: turning off Areo doesn't do crap. It might put less strain on your computer graphically when the effects show up BUT the Window Manager still uses up as many resources as with Areo turned on - I checked. Another thing is that when you launch full-screen 3D applications Areo is turned off automatically and Vista frees up resources as needed (kinda like Linux) so this isn't the main concern here, methinks.

Still, I wouldn't recommend running Vista on older computers or ones that barely pass the minimum spec requirements. From my experience Vista runs great when you have a good enough computer but becomes hard to bear when you got a slower one. It's as if there was an invisible performance barrier to get all the cogs going...

Author:  [SpA]Bucky [ 16 Nov 2008, 12:58 ]
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get vista off that machine for once

Author:  dckjns [ 16 Nov 2008, 13:56 ]
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[SpA]Bucky wrote:
get vista off that machine for once
nein! wrote:
Would this computer be to crap to run Vista and simultaneously run simple computer games (according to this, it should at least be able to run Vista) and do I need to revert back to XP? Any other possible reasons?
The whole point of the topic was that I wanted to know if there could be any other reasons to this, I already know everything works fine on Windows XP.

Apparently I do need to revert back to XP. :66

Author:  Lim-Dul [ 16 Nov 2008, 15:21 ]
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Yes you do... However, keep in mind that Vista is meanwhile actually FASTER than XP if you got the proper hardware (and only then) and don't let XP fanboys or Vista haters convince you otherwise. The benchmarks are easy to find on the internet. =)

It's just like XP which is faster than Win2K on comparable hardware but only if you meet (or rather: surpass) its requirements.

Author:  dckjns [ 17 Nov 2008, 16:27 ]
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After having a look at the nVidia graphic card, I set the global settings from "quality" to "performance", and am now getting good FPS in HL1 games and Peggle. I thought I had tampered with all those settings. Oh well, minor victory. :mrgreen:

Author:  MikeDH [ 18 Nov 2008, 11:59 ]
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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:
Yes you do... However, keep in mind that Vista is meanwhile actually FASTER than XP if you got the proper hardware (and only then) and don't let XP fanboys or Vista haters convince you otherwise. The benchmarks are easy to find on the internet. =)

It's just like XP which is faster than Win2K on comparable hardware but only if you meet (or rather: surpass) its requirements.
Hmm, while i agree with you, Vista doesn't like Direct X 9.

Author:  [SpA]Scatterbrain [ 22 Nov 2008, 21:30 ]
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I'm running with the same OS and same amount of ram, but a (dual core) processor that's 0.9ghz slower, and I've got no lag at all pretty much. So, I'd imagine it's the graphics card - try fiddling with settings a bit more? ;p

oh, and vista runs far better if it's updated, so do that if you haven't already.

Author:  dckjns [ 23 Nov 2008, 12:39 ]
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ETMI wrote:
I'm running with the same OS and same amount of ram, but a (dual core) processor that's 0.9ghz slower, and I've got no lag at all pretty much. So, I'd imagine it's the graphics card - try fiddling with settings a bit more? ;p

oh, and vista runs far better if it's updated, so do that if you haven't already.
It is fully updated, and the processor is dual-core. What graphics card are you using?

I've fiddled around with everything worth fiddling with.

Author:  [SpA]Scatterbrain [ 23 Nov 2008, 14:46 ]
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nein! wrote:
ETMI wrote:
I'm running with the same OS and same amount of ram, but a (dual core) processor that's 0.9ghz slower, and I've got no lag at all pretty much. So, I'd imagine it's the graphics card - try fiddling with settings a bit more? ;p

oh, and vista runs far better if it's updated, so do that if you haven't already.
It is fully updated, and the processor is dual-core. What graphics card are you using?

I've fiddled around with everything worth fiddling with.
nVidia 8800gt 512mb.
runs tf2, hl2 - pretty much everything - at 60fps pretty much constantly.

(I take it the ram is DDR2, not ridiculously outdated etc?)

Author:  dckjns [ 23 Nov 2008, 16:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Older computer

ETMI wrote:
nVidia 8800gt 512mb.
runs tf2, hl2 - pretty much everything - at 60fps pretty much constantly.

(I take it the ram is DDR2, not ridiculously outdated etc?)
That's the exact card I run on my main computer, so the other one might just be "ridiculously outdated", will edit once checked

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