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 Post subject: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 10:16 
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looks like valve did shit :
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s ... p?t=953306

also from the idler :
http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?nam ... start=4170


LE: i dunno if it is fake : http://i29.tinypic.com/qoj9lc.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 10:30 
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8:50 PM - Nine: Will we be seeing a blog post from The Announcer in the near future that will clear up this Cheat Detection mess for the large amount of angry and confused players?
8:50 PM - ErikJ: Who are the angry and confused players
8:50 PM - Nine: Pretty much anyone who used the idle program, it seems
8:51 PM - ErikJ: That would be cheating the item system, so yeah, they will lose their items.
8:51 PM - ErikJ: But we're going to post tomrrow.
8:52 PM - Nine: ...and what's with the tf_wearable_item associated with cheating?
8:53 PM - ErikJ: It will give people a message letting them know that their items they got using the idling program are gone.
8:54 PM - Nine: Okay. Thanks for clearing that up.
Could be real, could be fake.

Drunken F00l made an update to the idler which blocks items that could detect whether you're using the idler or something like that, he doesn't know if that's the way it works but he said he might as well try it ^^

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 10:36 
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that will be a bad shit for iddlers and I know they are pretty much of them just looking in my friend list and see the server they "playing"

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 10:43 
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actually 11 000 players almost every hour .... cull huh ? :>

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 11:09 
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Good thing I haven't used that program. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 11:25 
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[SpA]Migu wrote:
Good thing I haven't used that program. :roll:
And have you got any hat yet? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 11:54 
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[SpA]Relentless wrote:
[SpA]Migu wrote:
Good thing I haven't used that program. :roll:
And have you got any hat yet? :lol:
No. But I will be laughing at you when Valve takes them away from you. :18

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 11:57 
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[SpA]Migu wrote:
[SpA]Relentless wrote:

And have you got any hat yet? :lol:
No. But I will be laughing at you when Valve takes them away from you. :18
any confirmations yet?!

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 12:03 
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Well I'm not idling just to get a hat. I am bothered that I don't have one but I will find it much more exhilarating if I get it during gameplay..... and if I do get one in gameplay I promise to not scream like a girl down the mic....oh wait I am a girl :4

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 12:05 
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tried it last night, got nothing, thus its pointless... i blame cardboard for influencing me to do it ^^ i blame him if i get a "i am stupid" sign stuck on me in game... :(

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 12:21 
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[SpA]annarack wrote:
Well I'm not idling just to get a hat. I am bothered that I don't have one but I will find it much more exhilarating if I get it during gameplay..... and if I do get one in gameplay I promise to not scream like a girl down the mic....oh wait I am a girl :4
You are not idling just to get a hat? Then what is you OTHER reason to idle? Big electricity bills turn you on?

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 12:26 
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Ehm, she is not idling at all Spike. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 12:28 
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I called it.

Have fun re-earning your most basic unlockables.


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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 12:33 
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Just when i was thinking of starting using the idle program :ugly: but seriously if valve want's to do this kind of thing they should consider changing the drop system too.


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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 12:42 
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Woohoo! i've been strongly against idling anyway, a hat will come to me some day~!


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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 12:48 
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Spikespiegel wrote:
You are not idling just to get a hat? Then what is you OTHER reason to idle? Big electricity bills turn you on?
[SpA]Migu wrote:
Ehm, she is not idling at all Spike. :roll:
Thank you M!gu,
No Spikespiegel, I'm not idling for any reason, I don't need to get big electricity bills to turn me on, anyway size doesn't matter :wink:

And sorry to hear you are not a member anymore :(

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 13:00 
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Murk wrote:
I called it.

Have fun re-earning your most basic unlockables.
You won't have to if you got higher level items without the idler, because then it doesn't replace them unless they are a higher level, so it's not a problem for lots of people. (Such as me). I didn't get a hat anyway so meh, this doesn't effect me in anyway. Most of the unlocks suck anyway, except for the razorback which is awesomesauce (oh and the medic ones).

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 13:05 
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
Murk wrote:
I called it.

Have fun re-earning your most basic unlockables.
You won't have to if you got higher level items without the idler, because then it doesn't replace them unless they are a higher level, so it's not a problem for lots of people. (Such as me). I didn't get a hat anyway so meh, this doesn't effect me in anyway. Most of the unlocks suck anyway, except for the razorback which is awesomesauce (oh and the medic ones).
Do you think so or did valve say so?


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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 13:07 
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I don't think valve have any way to see if you earned items through the idler until this update.
Drunken_F00l wrote:
A very smart friend of mine had an idea. It seems like the added item may be something that is given randomly to people's backpack. If you are actually in TF2, TF2 will know to quickly delete the item so you are not flagged for cheating. However, if using the idler, the item will not have been automatically deleted and thus your account will be flagged.

It's too soon to know for sure, but it looks like I'll have to program the idler to automatically delete these "cheat detector" items and we'll be fine.


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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 13:11 
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure his latest update does that

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 13:12 
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Murk wrote:
[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:

You won't have to if you got higher level items without the idler, because then it doesn't replace them unless they are a higher level, so it's not a problem for lots of people. (Such as me). I didn't get a hat anyway so meh, this doesn't effect me in anyway. Most of the unlocks suck anyway, except for the razorback which is awesomesauce (oh and the medic ones).
Do you think so or did valve say so?


We don't know squat yet. Hide your sandviches.
They will only delete items unlocked by the idler, and your being a massive hypocrite by saying 'We don't know squat yet' then just before that saying 'Have fun re-earning your basic unlocks'. ^^

Also you won't be able to re-'earn' them, you'll have to wait to randomly get them again, unless you haven't done the achievements yet.

They will get 1000s of complaints about it anyway, it's not like people replace TF2 with the idler, is it any better from valves point of view if people idle in a real server? That could be classed as 'cheating the item system', so now they will ban people for spending too long on a TF2 server where no one really plays TF2, to get around their stupid incomplete unlock system ;)

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 13:15 
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
They will only delete items unlocked by the idler
Unless you are detected as a major violator in which case you get everything removed.

And we don't know the criteria for major violations.

Good day sir!


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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 13:34 
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Oh well. I didnt in the first place. Sure I want the hats but oh well. I guess you'll have to wait for the hats like everyone else...damned idlers :p

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 13:41 
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Most of the unlocks suck anyway, except for the razorback which is awesomesauce (oh and the medic ones).
FaN *hinthint*

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 14:12 
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[SpA]Minimoose! wrote:
except for the razorback which is awesomesauce
the razorback blows, you pansey :P

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 15:24 
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Razorback makes you amazing at sniping, I don't see why people aren't VAC banned for using it, it cheats the item drop system.

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 15:26 
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http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tf2dropboycott
tf2 boycott group for retarded valve decisions

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 15:30 
Edeph wrote:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tf2dropboycott
tf2 boycott group for retarded valve decisions
:lol:


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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 15:31 
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3 members, yeah!

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 Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING
PostPosted: 01 Sep 2009, 15:35 
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Valve should ban the group, just for the fun of it

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