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PostPosted: 17 Feb 2010, 00:28 
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yeah but those things just make me car sick.

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PostPosted: 17 Feb 2010, 03:30 
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Lim when you were looking at gamespot, i WAS looking at porn as it seemed like a better waste of my time than reading a review of a subjective art form. And its not ignorance at all, as i said, i dont give a shit about reviews or reviewers, the only review i care about is the one i make, im not a child or some idiot that needs someone else to tell me what to buy and think then wrap it all up for me a put a big shiny gold star on it. No thank you. Which is why i really respect Yahtzee as he does reviews properly, i.e. doesn't care and has a nice healthy rant, and no stupid retarded pointless score number!

Plus if you watch the gamespot video, as in actually watch it, you can clearly see the guy is shit and cant even aim ffs, so some GENIUS down at gamesp...whatever the fuck its called, thought they would get some one who is used to review DS games about walking a puppy to play it.
Well - paying attention to reviewers and actually KNOWING about really famous sites existing are two different things.

Also, I don't think you should have such a loose attitude towards reviewers considering how they still are and always will be a major driving vehicle behind game sales - try selling a game that got a 1/10 on Gamespot, I dare you (even a 6/10 was the source of a major scandal, look below). If anybody could allow himself to be displaying such an amount of ignorance, hatred and/or indifference towards video game journalists it might be the common consumer who only risks losing like $30 on a shitty game he didn't fetch information on - for you game sales might be strongly connected to your employment or lack thereof, especially in times of a global crisis. ;-)

It is a bit of a personal matter since I am on the other side of the fence here, as you know, and honestly feel, like many of my colleagues, that I'm doing the public a service - not everybody can play all the games or download all the demos (which are usually even less indicative of the full game than a review) and that's where professionals who saw thousands of games and hence have at least a vague idea of a given game's quality come in. Games are an art-form, I don't deny that, but since it's also interactive media with a huge reliance on technology there are huge parts of any given game that can be judged 100% objectively - especially by comparing them side-by-side with other titles.

Don't get me wrong - Gamespot is a piece of shit and the editor might be a clueless moron too - to me only aggregate scores matter since they present an average - but that's all the more reasons for somebody to know the site and mourn how much influence they have (if you don't know about it, you can't fight it - as much as you think highly of your opinion it's THEIR opinion that will be listened to and published, not yours) and on the other hand not a reason to diss reviewers in general.

BTW Gamespot fired Jeff Gerstmann, who has been with them since the very beginning, a couple of years ago after he gave Kane and Lynch a 6/10 while Eidos was pumping money into having Gamespot's site plastered with ads - ROFL - I don't have any respect for any source of information that does something like that (hint: perhaps your publisher didn't bribe Gamespot's staff enough :-P).

P.S. 2.5/5 just came in from Gamespy, you heard about them, right? :-P
Very crappy review at that - seems like the guy who wrote it was in love with his own witty remarks and metaphors and didn't even bother to give, you know, actual arguments for the score he's given. Time and time again I am assured that printed magazines, while hardly anybody buys them anymore, have so much more journalistic integrity - you have to invest more time, money and effort to bring out a monthly issue while getting your opinion out on the Internet is SO easy, especially for the old websites like Gamespot or Gamespy who don't need to try too hard to attract people anymore since chances are people will stumble upon them via a simple Google query. Worth noting: type in video games in Google and Gamespot will be your first result. ;-)
Also, you'll be happy to know that I'm not reviewing AvP. ^^

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PostPosted: 17 Feb 2010, 08:08 
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I'd love to see an AVP review from the Gamestar people... oh wait... not sold in Germany. :ugly:

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PostPosted: 17 Feb 2010, 11:08 
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I didn't say i hated reviews or reviewers; i just don't care about it all, same as i don't care for film or music reviews. And i'm not attacking you Lim, i haven't even read one of your reviews, or seem your magazine, or portal/website!

I don't care also if my review is not published?!?,... its not supposed to be, i dont want to inform people about things like this in the slightest. if a game turns out to be crap then i just sell the thing and move on.

As long as the game gets at least a high score and has a good IP then my game sales are fine. Even Rogue Warrior still sold lots of copies even if it got the lowest score ever and was slated.

I try to stay clear of all those "portals" or websites as i call them, apart from metacritc and gametrailers, as "portals" or websites like gamespot and gamespy look like they are going to give my PC the electronic clap.

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PostPosted: 17 Feb 2010, 12:20 
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The only reviewer that matters truly is Yhatzee.


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PostPosted: 17 Feb 2010, 12:30 
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[SpA]Repel wrote:
The only reviewer that matters truly is Yhatzee.
:5: Seconded!

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PostPosted: 17 Feb 2010, 15:54 
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UK people, on film four tonite they are showing Aliens, i believe the AVP story trailer will be shown in the first add break - for the whole add break.

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PostPosted: 17 Feb 2010, 16:13 
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I wanna know what Howard thinks of all this. :rock:


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PostPosted: 17 Feb 2010, 20:32 
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[SpA]DrMcMoist wrote:
I wanna know what Howard thinks of all this. :rock:
About what? The game or game reviews?

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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 11:26 
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http://www.gametrailers.com/video/revie ... s-vs/62074

Gametrailers review is not too bad, and this was the one I actually cared about.

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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 15:23 
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[SpA]ProtectMyBalls wrote:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/revie ... s-vs/62074

Gametrailers review is not too bad, and this was the one I actually cared about.
Soooooo, you care only about the reviews that are at least semi-favorable? :-P
The Metascore for AvP is 66 right now and in video game journalism's retarded 7-9 rating system (which we luckily haven't succumbed to) this is actually pretty mediocre. :-P

Also, on the other side of the spectrum:

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998

OUCHIES! :-P

Also, having spoken about Jeff Gerstman and how he liked to truthfully review games (Kane & Lynch-gate):

http://www.giantbomb.com/aliens-vs-pred ... 2/reviews/

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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 15:33 
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yeah the 1up review is harsh lol - but again, never heard of it :roll:

But im a big fan of gametrailers - and its a fairly balanced review.

I dont think metacritic is counting Australian reviews though which is annoying.

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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 15:37 
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[SpA]ProtectMyBalls wrote:
yeah the 1up review is harsh lol - but again, never heard of it :roll:

But im a big fan of gametrailers - and its a fairly balanced review.

I dont think metacritic is counting Australian reviews though which is annoying.
Isn't AvP banned in Australia? =)

Update: Yep, I checked, it is.

P.S. Balanced doesn't mean fair. =)

Just in: Review by the only site that matters to me (except for Metacritic/Gamerankings).

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/alien ... 010-review

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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 16:27 
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I <3 Eurogamer. Gamespot used to be my site for gaming news, but after Greg Kasavin and Jeff Gerstman left the site just went downhill very fast.

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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 16:47 
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yeah... it's released in Australia today i believe...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/sega- ... -australia

and from your favourite site!

http://uk.gamespot.com/ps3/action/alien ... es;title;1

that link also has a link to a video of the AVP producer giving an interview to the Australian press in Australia for the banned game in Australia.

:roll: typical lack of research from journos! ;)

EDIT: Balanced means the review is balance between the good and the bad attributes of a title; which i'm fine with and can respect alot.


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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 18:30 
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[SpA]ProtectMyBalls wrote:
EDIT: Balanced means the review is balance between the good and the bad attributes of a title; which i'm fine with and can respect alot.
Not if the given title has more bad attributes than good ones - then a balanced review would distort the picture. ;-)

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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 18:48 
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Still being released in Australia though isn't it ;) LAWYERED!

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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 19:14 
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Cant wait for Yahtzee's review, should bring some epic conclusions ;)


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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 19:20 
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This sure is a contentious thread.

And yet, I can't really see where it's all coming from.


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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 20:41 
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Too much testosterone.

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PostPosted: 19 Feb 2010, 20:53 
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Yeah, let's get a couple of girls in here to calm it all down.

Come on girls. Come on in.


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PostPosted: 20 Feb 2010, 13:19 
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Giggiddy Giggiddy!


The ZP review is gonna be brutal.

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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2010, 12:25 
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Rabble Rabble!

Rabble!


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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2010, 13:07 
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PostPosted: 21 Feb 2010, 15:58 
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FAGS!!!


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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2010, 16:34 
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AvP Steam Key for 25€

http://www.g2play.net/store/Aliens-Vs-P ... m-Key.html

(Yes, this site is legit. I already bought some Steam games from there)


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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2010, 16:35 
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[SpA]demm wrote:
AvP Steam Key for 25€

http://www.g2play.net/store/Aliens-Vs-P ... m-Key.html

(Yes, this site is legit. I already bought some Steam games from there)
But who would want to buy that game? :-P

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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2010, 16:44 
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Im not sure, its bizarre, its like number one in the UK at the moment. :shock:

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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2010, 16:45 
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I don't know Lim. Maybe somebody who really likes bad games. I heard there are men who like fat women, so anything is possible :ugly:


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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2010, 17:23 
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Im not sure, its bizarre, its like number one in the UK at the moment. :shock:
So was Transformers: The Game - welcome to this elite club. ;-)

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