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Lim-Dul

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 02 Sep 2009, 14:27

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They can't remove the old items. There's no way they could identify them. They only introduced anti-idling measures for the future although their effectiveness is still questioned (the fake items that weren't deleted by the program).

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 00:45

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http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2787

if u havent read it.

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 01:12

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"Meanwhile, everyone who took the moral high road will soon be finding a new hat in their inventory."

Glad I was away for almost 2 months otherwise I would have probably idled.

Edit: Wat 800 kills

, I'm a stat whore deep inside and am very displeased by this! At least the stat page still shows the right amount.

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 04:31

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All idled items already gone, people went back to achievement_idle servers

All of you no-idlers can run around looking like Jesus now

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 06:56

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and crafting duplicates into desired items

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[SpA]Migu

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 07:20

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Lol how awesome is this!

<3 Valve

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[SpA]futari

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 07:32

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I feel like I did good o: yay valve!
The new hat is awesome, though it looks a bit weird on the soldier 0_0

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[SpA]Mr.green

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 08:47

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pfft stop idling for about a month ago the only thing important i lost was my football helmet

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[SpA]BAM

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 08:49

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this is what I see when I open my loadout

... still I didn't find any hat in inventory

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 09:01

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hahaha...I found it (all classes have this hat)

this "hat" is called CHEATER'S LAMENT

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[SpA]demm

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 09:12

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Weird, I only tried out the idler once for about 15 minutes when it first came out. Haven't used it since, but still, I didn't get the new hat. So I guess Valve found a way to know who's been using the program even right from the beginning.

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 09:15

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the hat is not in the loadout, select a character and click on head, there I found it (I noticed that loadout says "one intem in inventory" at demo ant that was suspicious, that's how I found it)

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 09:23

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Nope, it's not there.

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 09:28

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This is how I feel:

Yes, it doesnt appear in the inventory, but you can equip it to everyone in the head slot.

edit: When you die you aquire it and its put into your inventory.

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[SpA]Minimoose!

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 09:49

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I didn't lose any weapons even though I was idling for like 1000+ hours

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 09:59

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[SpA]BAM

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 10:06

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that lady is the pyro

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 10:49

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cardboard was the little devil in my ear telling me to do it... (well i did ask :S)

only idled for one evening...

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Lim-Dul

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 11:36

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Ooh - nice I've lost all my unlocks since I've been replacing items with the auto-delete option. I literally have like 5 unlocks across all characters now. Well, another reason not to go back to TF2. ;-)

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 11:40

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I am freaking JEZUS

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 11:50

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Wooot myfirsthat(TM)

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 12:11

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TF2 Update:

- Added support for client explanations of backend inventory manipulation

Edit: Thanks EB for pointing to the blog: http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2787

So LETS NOT IDLE ANYMORE HMMMKAY?

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 12:31

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Maybe if they didn't have a completely retarded system then all this wouldn't have been a problem.

Make getting the hats difficult, not complete chance.

Honestly. Since when has playing computer games been about chance? Well, unless they're designed like that specifically, like gambling simulators or some stupid shit like that. Award people for meeting criteria. Even if it's hard as fuck. At least then you can wear that hat and people will look at you and say; 'Dang. He be hot shit y'all'

Not; 'Oh. Hey. I found a hat. I was just standing here, healing this Heavy cause that's what the TF2 Medic tips on Youtube told me to do. It's a Pyro hat. I've not played that class yet, but when I do. I'll be wearing that hat'

Hell. I've only been playing TF2 since October 30th 2007. And my most played class is Pyro, by a long fucking shot but hey, why should I get a hat? Any hat? Why should I? I clearly haven't earned it.

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[SpA]Minimoose!

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 12:39

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Yup, also, I'm pretty sure that their TOS excluded things like aimbot and esp's but never said anything about a program like this (since it doesn't give you an advantage in gameplay). So by them removing the items received by this idler they are being dicks by enforcing a rule then taking away the things before the rule was even in place.

It's a 20 year old having sex with a 19 year old, then a day later the government move the legal age of sex to 20, then they apply the rule to him and send him to prison. Yeah it only effects 0.0000001% of the worlds population but it's still a shit way of enforcing rules.

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Lim-Dul

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 12:42

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Nah, it's always been forbidden to use third party programs to hook into Steam. It is in the EULA somewhere.

Like I said - I have no problems with Valve punishing idlers like that. I just find it a bummer that I didn't even get anything through Idling and lost the items that I had BEFOREHAND. But in the end it doesn't really matter - I haven't played TF2 for months now. ;-)

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 12:52

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 12:56

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[SpA]Minimoose!

Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 12:57

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[SpA]Lim-Dul wrote:

Why would they say:

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We're going to adopt a zero tolerance policy for external applications used to manipulate the persistent item system.

Or did they just not bother enforcing the policy before? Either way this quote is wrong.

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 12:58

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So... When the trade system kicks in - I can give someone my halo?

The only hat I have is the football helmet. Given that I very rarely play heavy, it is less use than a chocolate fireguard*. Also - I accidentally deleted all my Kritzkriegs and I play medic alot. I am now at the mercy of random chance to get it replaced (why is it I kept getting huntsman/kritz when I already had them but now I want them I don't) until the trades kick in.

PS - At least they only deleted items gained by idling. That (almost) puts it back on a level playing field with the non-idlers - except for the loss of items where the "originals" were deleted to free up backpack space.

PPS - Why was the medal for the first people to find a hidden site? Valve and anyone they tipped off + their mates get a medal? Surely giving it to something more specific (like most [insert relevant class here} hours in game or similar) would have been more appropriate. </bitch>

*at least you could eat the chocolate

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Post subject: Re: NO MORE IDLING

PostPosted: 03 Sep 2009, 13:07

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i heard that the halo is cloak proof (cant confirm myself) but its probably a bug they will fix eventually...

personally, the halo will make headshots a) easier and b) a lot more fun

MUHAHAHAHAH!

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